400: Lagoon 400

[Jeannius]

but they do not beach well

Ian... You'll never beach a cat once you've seen what it does to your antifouling

Interesting shot of the 395.. I can see out while seated at the chart table on a 435 but it does look as though the windows are higher in that shot

[ireaney]

Originally Posted by Jeannius

Ian... You'll never beach a cat once you've seen what it does to your antifouling

Interesting shot of the 395.. I can see out while seated at the chart table on a 435 but it does look as though the windows are higher in that shot

Hi Mike, I hope you are having fun and enjoying yourself, in no. 11 of this thread I did say the only Priv for me would be the 435/445 as they are the only ones that you can see forward out of the windows when sitting, am I right or wrong??
Also beaching a cat, does it do that much harm to the antifouling?
Cheers
Ian

[Jeannius]

Ian

Most antifouls that I've seen used are soft enough to rub off with your hand. Any sort of friction on sand will go right through it very quickly. I know there are some really hard antifouls but I think they are very expensive.

I really don't know about the visibility out of the 395. The windows certainly look too high in that photo but maybe the seat backs are low. I just find it difficult to believe that the smaller boat has higher windows.

[lstyles]

Does anyone have any updates on the Lagoon 400? Price? Delivery date? Options? Pro/Con?
Lori

[Hyprdrv]

My broker sent me the CAD video of the 40 and a price of $395k. His comment in the Email was "I expect the 2010 models to be sold out before the end of 2008", which leads me to believe the first delivery will be 2010. It kind of looks like a cross between the 44 and the 38 which makes sense. 3 cabin/3 head config. I don't like the 2 private smaller heads and would prefer 1 larger one on the guest side. The smooth lines of the ridged bimini to salon make more sense to me than a "window" area of 10" on other cats to see from the helm although the exposed helm presents some issues but much better than the isolation/separation of the larger cat. But what do I know, I'm a newbie.

Steve in VA

[Asa-san]

Here are some details on L400- hope it helps gentleman.











2009 MODEL LAGOON 400

ORDER CONFIRMATION
US $ AS ORDERED

01 BASE PRICE B 2009 CHARTER ( 4 cabin, 4 head ) 2 x 29HP YANMAR 3YM30 $369,200
OWNER ( 3 cabin, 3 head ) 2 x 29HP YANMAR 3YM30 $365,000

02 UPHOLSTERY / CURTAINS CURTAINS ON SALON DOOR (Sahara Sesame) $781
MOSQUITO SCREENS $210
STANDARD UPHOLSTERY Trajan Sand (Salon & Settees) STD
SPECIAL UPHOLSTERY $350

03 EQUIPMENT CONFIGURATION ESSENTIAL $18,768
CRUISING $31,828
COMFORT (M) $47,320
STORAGE UNIT UNDER HELM STATION E C M
PAIR OF STAINLESS STEEL DINGHY DAVITS E C M
110 V ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT with 40 Amp BATTERY CHARGER E C M
2 ADDITIONAL SERVICE BATTERIES 140Amp E C M
PROPANE OVEN with BROILER & S/S INTERIOR E C M
SHOWER DOOR E C M
DOUBLE SOUND INSULATED FLOOR IN ENGINE COMPARTMENTS E C M
AFT PORT HOLES IN AFT CABINS E C M
WATERPROOF LOUDSPEAKERS IN COCKPIT E C M
RADIO / CD PLAYER MP3 + 2 LOUDSPEAKERS IN SALOON E C M
NAVPACK RAYMARINE 2009 E C M
GENAKER RIG AND POLE (No sail) C M
FOLDING BLUE CANVAS BIMINI C M
ELECTRIC MANOEUVRE WINCH 46.2STCEH C M
PULPIT WITH WOODEN SEAT C M
SEA & FRESH WATER FOOT PUMPS IN GALLEY C M
FRESHWATER DOCK INLET C M
2 ELECTRIC GENOA SHEET WINCHES 46.2STCEH M
AFT COCKPIT FLOOR IN TEAK M
DECK WASH DOWN PUMP SEA WATER / FRESH WATER M
E120 DISPLAY AT HELM STATION M
RADAR ANTENNA 24KW 24NM M
AUTOPILOT REMOTE SMARTCONTROL M

04 RIGGING & SAILS GENAKER $7,945
LAZY BAG WITH BLUE COVER $1,061
DOYLE MAINSAIL CRADLE COVER IN BLUE $3,235
SPINNAKER GEAR Cruising Pack Compulsary) $1,831

05 DECK GEAR 2ND SWIM LADDER & 2ND HOT/COLD COCKPIT SHOWER $571
AFT COCKPIT SEAT CUSHIONS BEIGE $2,240
COCKPIT SIDES & AFT SUN CANVAS $1,645
COMPOSITE COCKPIT TABLE in lieu of coffee table Request
ELECTRIC WINCH FOR DAVITS 40.2STCE $2,905
110V ICEMAKER in COCKPIT $2,544
OUTBOARD ENGINE BRACKET ON PUSHPIT $175
COCKPIT ENCLOSURE WITH CLEAR PANELS $3,664
PAIR OF SUN LOUNGER PADS BEIGE $1,400

06 ENGINES UPGRADE TO 40 HP VOLVO D2-40 $5,484
UPGRADE TO 40 HP YANMAR 3JH4ATCE $4,014
PAIR OF 3 BLADE FOLDING PROPS TBC

07 ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT 12V SOCKET IN CABIN (PER CABIN) $140
12V 110V INVERTER 2000W $5,191
GENSET ONAN 7 KVA 110V/60 HZ WITH COCOON $19,950
UPGRADE TO GEL SERVICE BATTERIES $2,426

08 WATER CIRCUIT EXTRA WATER TANK 87 GALLONS (not with watermaker) $829
HOLDING TANKS, DECK-SEA $2,345
WC ELECTRIC QUIET FLUSH ALL CABINS $3,010
WATER MAKER 26 GALS per HOUR 110V $16,496

09 INTERIOR EQUIPMENT ADDITIONAL 12V FREEZER 29 GALLONS (not available with additional fridge) $2,286
ADDITIONAL 12V FRIDGE 29 GALLONS (not available with additional freezer) $1,610
BERTH IN PORT BOW $1,131
BERTH IN STB BOW $1,131
A/C 44,000 BTU 110V FOR OWNER LAYOUT $20,510
A/C 48,000 BTU 110V FOR CHARTER LAYOUT $23,159
DIESEL HEATER $8,061
SALOON TABLE CONVERTIBLE TO DOUBLE BERTH $339
12V FAN IN CABINS and SALON $980
MICROWAVE OVER & GRILL $560
UNDERBED SLATS $886
WASHING MACHINE 3 KG 110V $1,925

10 HI-FI & ELECTRONICS AIS RAYMARINE SYSTEM WITH ANTENNA COUPLING $1,365
E120 DISPLAY AT NAV STATION $6,324
RAYMARINE SEATALK / USB PC LINK $851
RUDDER JOYSTICK AT CHART TABLE) $1,610
TV ANTENNA IN MAST and 110V OUTLET $444
TV LCD 20" with DVD MP3 PLAYER IN SALON $3,546
VHF RAYMARINE 55 US CHANNELS WITH DSC $794
VHF CABLE AND ANTENNA IN MAST $344

10 MOORING, LAUNCHING ANCHOR SET : 20KG FLAT ANCHOR, 75M OF CHAIN D10, WRAP D18 $1,306
DELIVERY ANTIFOULING BLUE INTERNATIONAL (PRIMER EPOXY) $2,927
MOORING KIT: 6 FENDERS + 4 MOORING ROPES $886
50 FT 50AMP 125/250V MARINCO SHORE POWER CORD $838
PLASTIC COVER FOR TRANSPORT FOR LAUNCHING $1,715
LIFERAFT/SAFETY PACK $3,143
LAUNCHING AND RIGGING $10,368
DEALER PREPARATION $9,312
FRENCH EXPORTATION FEES $792
NAME AND HAILING PORT $443

Retail Price $0

1. Base price includes delivery to East Coast USA or Caribbean.
2. Importation, duties, taxes and rigging are not included in Lagoon base pricing.
3. Prices and Equipment subject to change.
Ordered BY: Dated:

Accepted BY:

[talus]

Broker told me they dropped the base price to $315,000 USD on the first 5 boats (one was still available). That sure makes it competitive with a lot of used 410's.

[Asa-san]

Just receintly I had chartered FP in effort to see differences in workmanship and fit out between Lagoon and FP. Well, also to have abit of good time as well. They are too very agresive in their pricing at the moment and to be honest as boats are still considered luxury items I believe it will be some time before things pick up and we will see prices going up. So, I will sit for a while, see how things progress, how many boats come out of charter market (they will as the squeeze gets harder) and maybe along the way I will find my bargain.
Having said that, 315K does sound better than a lot of 2nd hand boats out there, even if taking into account aditional 50-60K to fit it out.

[Erdnase]

Y Y
Y
Y
Y
Customer Details
ORDER CONTRACT
Simpson Marine Contact
Ex Yard Proposed Handover Boat Location
Y Name
Y Email
Y Phone
Y Address
Y Y
Y Boat Details
Erdnase Chia
Singapore
Y Y
Y Y Y
Brand Lagoon
Model 400 S2
Engine Yanmar 3JH5CE (40HP)
Y€
Y Base Boat (built to current standard specification) Y
Y Factory Supplied Options Y
Y Total Boat Price Ex-Yard before Discount Y
Y Less Special Discount as detailed below Y Base Boat
Y Factory Fit Options Y
Y Total Boat Price Ex-Yard Y
Y Shipping to Singapore and Commissioning Y
Y Total Boat Price delivered to Singapore Y VAT @ 0.0%
Y Total Price Y
Y Post Contract
Y Factory Fit Options
Y VAT @ 0.0%
Y Total Post Contract Dealer Fit Options Y
Y Revised Total Price Y
261,407 96,915
358,322
340,406
68,317
408,723
0
408,723
16,587 0 16,587
425,310

[Erdnase]

I paid euros 425k for my boat with options. Lagoon 400.

[Erdnase]

Any owners of the lagoon 400 can you kindly answer 3 questions I have.

1. What make and brand is the lifeboat?
2. Is it easy to clean the propeller and sail drive from barnacles?
3. How easy is it to manage power on the boat? Does the ray-marine system display our power management?
4. Is it easy to configure the batteries? Should I buy the inverter?

[meirriba]

1.The liferaft is not supplied by Lagoon. You buy whatever you like.
2. No. Although easier than on a monohull as the boat is shallow.
3. Raymarine does not show anything with regard to batteries. There is a monitor on the electric panel showing voltage of the housebank and the starters and total current outflow at given moment in Amperes of the housebatteries.. If you want to know more you have to install additional monitor at your own expense.
4. What you want to configure on top of what is already configures by the company?
5. If you need A/C under way - you should buy an inverter. If you are happy with 12V out of sight of the marina, than you don't.

[Captain Jeffry]

Originally Posted by meirriba

1.The liferaft is not supplied by Lagoon. You buy whatever you like.
2. No. Although easier than on a monohull as the boat is shallow.
3. Raymarine does not show anything with regard to batteries. There is a monitor on the electric panel showing voltage of the housebank and the starters and total current outflow at given moment in Amperes of the housebatteries.. If you want to know more you have to install additional monitor at your own expense.
4. What you want to configure on top of what is already configures by the company?
5. If you need A/C under way - you should buy an inverter. If you are happy with 12V out of sight of the marina, than you don't.

This is the best! Asks for 3 questions, actually writes 4 and gets 5 really good answers!!!! I Love CF!!

[Erdnase]

Haha that's funny.

Heres another query I hope a lagoon owner can enlighten me.

1. I have purchased my lagoon 400 with an onan genset. Also with a 44,000 btu cruisair aircon. However I did not add an inverter. Does anyone here know if I need the inverter to run the air con?

2. Is the 44000 btu aircon split system? As in each room has its own aircon? Or does it mean if I on my aircon the cold air will cover the 3 cabins and the galley? Is the galley even covered by the aircon? I have ordered the aircon meant for 3 cabin ( owners version). It's a lagoon 400 s-2.

[meirriba]

1. No. The genset produces 220v A/C that powers the aircondition directly (it runs on 220V A/C)
2. You will have a separate unit in each cabin. The saloon unit will cover the galley
3. Didn't you purchase the boat through an agent? These are basic questions to ask the seller before purchase...