420: Lagoon 420 Owners & Fans

[ess105]

Hi S2W. Things are fine with both me and Dignity. The qualified feedback I am receiving on my boat and others is somewhat different to what you and others have experienced/reported on boats fresh off their trips over the Atlantic. I don't want to get too much into providing second hand information but in reference to your specific comment, my last charterer reported that he used 43 gallons over 13 days. There's other facts and experiences out there that keep me very pleased with my decision. Whether people will come onto this thread and share their experiences I don't know. I think this thread lost it's initial "spirit" some time ago. There are owners out there publishing their experiences (Adventures of Sea Si is a good one) where you will find experiences different to your own and more in line with recent reports of experiences on my own boat.

[sailvi767]

Originally Posted by ess105

You're making the assumption the skipper you're talking to is a reliable source.

Very true, The island skippers who work freelance tend to be an odd lot and often even leave a bit to be desired in seamanship.

George

[sail2wind]

Glad all is going well with you and Dignitiy. Too bad I had the experience I did, I was very excited about the electric engines, even flew to Miami to see the boat and meet Douglas. He is a very nice man, unfortunatley handled my situation very poorly. I understand he and his brother worked diligently to get the boat ready, but she was not. Any trips planned to BVI? Evan

[ess105]

Sorry - meant to say we're down in the VIs in Feb. Only for a week sadly as schedules are tight.

[ess105]

Originally Posted by sailvi767

Very true, The island skippers who work freelance tend to be an odd lot and often even leave a bit to be desired in seamanship.

George

Not all - met some great folks myself. Just that the numbers you gave are not in line with recent evidence so I suspect whatever he was drawing his experience from was limited.

[Moby Dick]

I went on the 420 at Southampton boat show a couple of months back. I noticed the bottom of the transoms go down straight into the water for about 15cm. ie where most boast have a stern that comes above,or just kisses, the waterline (when at rest), the 420's are well below. I believe the 'normal' design is to minimise turbulence? Anyvbody know if lagoon did it this way to reduce wave slap (at expense of performance), made an error on the displacement calculations or for some other reason?

[Wayward Wind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ0i322SvFI

It makes me wanna head off to the deep blue wonder.

[colemj]

I agree that looks like fun. One thing disturbing, however, is the shot of the instrumentation. The boat was sailing at 5 kts on a 120 degree apparent reach in 17 kts of wind. That seems slow. It is possible that the knotmeter or anenometer were not calibrated.

Mark

[ess105]

Yup. If you're log is accurate to within 2 knots upon delivery, you're one of the rare ones.

[ireaney]

The average is 4.46 knots based on 3000 miles, 28 days and 24 hours per day and by looking at it they didn't have a huge amount of wind, which also means (based on that average) that they must on many occassions been doing in excess of 8 knots, seems OK to me especially if they didn't use a gennaker etc.

[sail2wind]

The 420 is not a fast cat, but very roomy and comfortable. We could only get 7 kts out of her on a beam reach with 18 kt winds, the boat recorded 5.5, my GPS read 7.

[Badgerman]

Originally Posted by sail2wind

The 420 is not a fast cat, but very roomy and comfortable. We could only get 7 kts out of her on a beam reach with 18 kt winds, the boat recorded 5.5, my GPS read 7.

You should qualify "comfortable"......the 420 is comfortable with the generator off and not moving. You need to be in very very calm anchorages and not need A/C at night. Also helps if you like your sleep
number bed set at 5000......comparable to the mattresses in the 420

[Therapy]

Originally Posted by Badgerman

You should qualify "comfortable"......the 420 is comfortable with the generator off and not moving. You need to be in very very calm anchorages and not need A/C at night. Also helps if you like your sleep
number bed set at 5000......comparable to the mattresses in the 420

[preeves]

Hello,

My wife and I are very interested in the 420 hybrid. Where is the best place to charter? We are near San Francisco. Do you have to buy it through a broker? Who do you suggest. Does the price very greatly on options chosen. I'm trying to get a handle on what we can expect to pay. We are planning to live aboard after we retire in 2 or 3 years. Thought we should started thinking about the purchase now. I sailed for 10 years in my younger days, but out of the loop now. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

[ess105]

Hi P,

I am slightly biaised when I say the British Virgin Islands is the best place to charter. I have an L420 in charter down there and the owner of the Martha R used to frequent this board and may still be listening. Either one of us, I am sure, would be more than willing to have you aboard. Send me a personal message if you want.

Look through this very long thread for some info. You'll see that BadgerMan is not a fan. In fact he chartered my boat and it evidently didn't match his tastes. I have received very positive feedback from later charterers. I'm reluctant to post the comments I have received on this board but I have made some of the feedback available on my personal website.

We also are planning on living aboard our boat when we can. If they meet your needs, these are great boats. Off my website (link below) you'll see links to two other L420 in private ownership already on their travels.

I'm pretty sure you'll need to go through a broker. I have experience of only one broker so I really don't feel qualified to recommend as I have no way to compare. The brokers do read this board so chances are they'll reach out to you.

If you PM me and provide your email address, I can send you an older price sheet. It won't be up to date but it will give you a good idea of the option costs.

Steve