Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 19-05-2020, 23:58   #1
Registered User
 
BigAl.NZ's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Auckland, NZ
Boat: Hood 38 - Wauquiez
Posts: 731
Balmar squealing

Our Balmar is rated for 90A output and connected to house bank.

I admit our batteries are a bit stuffed, and last night the Balmar was putting out 22A into the house batts, and the belt was squealing quite a bit. Throttled back and all was ok at 18A.

Its a gates green stripe V belt, and tension and alignment looks ok (but I will double check).

My question is I assume that 22A should be no problem for this alt, even with a V belt, and there is no need for it to squeal if all is in working order right?

I have also de-rated the regulator, so I am disappointed there is still squealing.
BigAl.NZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2020, 02:06   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: canada
Posts: 4,705
Re: Balmar squealing

you have belt / pulley issues. either too lose or something is bad.

I installed a 200a alt today on boat. at first it squealed over 100a. I tightened the double v belt. no squealing at 200a. well I measured 198a...

22a is nothing.
smac999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2020, 14:47   #3
Moderator
 
JPA Cate's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, in Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 29,046
Re: Balmar squealing

If it is the belt that is squealing, either it is ready to break, or it needs tightening. It should only deflect about a cm. If it is at the end of its lifetime, and you tighten it, it will break soon.

For a high output alternator, use the best dang belts you can find.

Ann
__________________
Who scorns the calm has forgotten the storm.
JPA Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2020, 15:03   #4
Marine Service Provider
 
Emmalina's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Thailand
Boat: Herreshoff Caribbean 50
Posts: 1,110
Re: Balmar squealing

What is nice is the Balmar external reg that ramps up the load nice and slowly so no sudden shock on the belts !
__________________
Steve .. It was the last one that did this !
Emmalina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2020, 16:59   #5
Registered User
 
Reefmagnet's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: puɐןsuǝǝnb 'ʎɐʞɔɐɯ
Boat: Nantucket Island 33
Posts: 4,865
Re: Balmar squealing

Don't discount the possibility of a dud bearing in the alternator either!
Reefmagnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2020, 18:05   #6
Moderator
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 21,349
Re: Balmar squealing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefmagnet View Post
Don't discount the possibility of a dud bearing in the alternator either!
Should be able to distinguish between belt and bearing noise by use of the "mechanic's stethoscope", ie a stiff dowel or a screwdriver with one end on the alternator case and the other in your hand and pressed to an ear. If a bad bearing is present, the noise will be evident immediately.

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II, lying Port Cygnet Tasmania once again.
Jim Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2020, 18:19   #7
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SF Bay Area (Boat Sold)
Boat: Former owner of a Valiant V40
Posts: 1,195
Re: Balmar squealing

By the way, don't be fooled by the "magic" belt dressings that claim to eliminate belt squeaks. Don't even think about going there ... unless you have a replacement belt on hand.
jamhass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2020, 18:22   #8
Moderator Emeritus
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,351
Re: Balmar squealing

Bearing noise won’t usually decrease with load, and is usually a grinding noise, a whirring sort of roar.
V belts are problematic, I gave up and went serpentine, my factory 80 amp are them
a64pilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2020, 18:47   #9
Moderator
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 21,349
Re: Balmar squealing

Quote:
Originally Posted by jamhass View Post
By the way, don't be fooled by the "magic" belt dressings that claim to eliminate belt squeaks. Don't even think about going there ... unless you have a replacement belt on hand.
That's odd... I used a spray can "belt grip" potion very successfully on our previous boat, driving a 120 A alternator with a 1/2 inch belt. Helped a lot and did not seem to cause shortening belt life.

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II, lying Port Cygnet Tasmania once again.
Jim Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2020, 19:12   #10
Registered User
 
sanibel sailor's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Ocala FL
Boat: 1979 Bristol 35.5 CB
Posts: 1,966
Re: Balmar squealing

I think a single V-belt is supposed to be good to about 100 amps.
__________________
John Churchill Ocala, FL
NURDLE, 1979 Bristol 35.5 CB
Currently hauled out ashore Summerfield FL for refit
sanibel sailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2020, 19:43   #11
Registered User
 
Reefmagnet's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: puɐןsuǝǝnb 'ʎɐʞɔɐɯ
Boat: Nantucket Island 33
Posts: 4,865
Re: Balmar squealing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Cate View Post
That's odd... I used a spray can "belt grip" potion very successfully on our previous boat, driving a 120 A alternator with a 1/2 inch belt. Helped a lot and did not seem to cause shortening belt life.

Jim

+1 for belt grip. It's good stuff. I've used it on worn out printer rollers to get a bit more life out of them. Just need to run off a few test pages after application.



We used to rub a bar of soap on squealing car belts back in the old days to stop them squealing. Not sure what happened if the belt got wet but I don't recall anyone complaining.
Reefmagnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-05-2020, 03:08   #12
Marine Service Provider
 
Emmalina's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Thailand
Boat: Herreshoff Caribbean 50
Posts: 1,110
Re: Balmar squealing

If its the bearing take the belt of and spin it by hand .. you will hear and feel if its the bearing.
__________________
Steve .. It was the last one that did this !
Emmalina is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
balmar


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Squealing engine/drive train noise Christian W. Engines and Propulsion Systems 13 08-11-2015 20:01
Yanmar 2GM20 Squealing vcsmithuk Engines and Propulsion Systems 10 11-01-2012 03:55
Ford Lehmann Squealing Coachbolt61 Engines and Propulsion Systems 2 31-10-2011 03:23
Squealing Noise at Different RPMs While Underway northbreeze Engines and Propulsion Systems 14 06-08-2009 05:05
Possible sources of squealing sound in engine/trannie/shaft Northeaster Propellers & Drive Systems 27 08-10-2008 20:18

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:40.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.