Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 20-06-2023, 05:16   #16
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Rochester, NY
Boat: Chris Craft 381 Catalina
Posts: 6,574
Re: Cycle chart for West Marine AGMS?

Quote:
Originally Posted by s/v Jedi View Post
Cycle between 50% and 100%.

Yes there are better choices for house batteries. For AGM, Lifeline would be the prima candidate (they invented it). For Gel, Sonnenschein is the top performer (they invented it). But all those are blown away by LiFePO4.

For start batteries I keep it at AGM, with the Odyssey TPPL range being the ultimate and one of the few with milspec ratings and being used by coastguards and even armored vehicles etc.

Unless something has changed, the East Penn made gel batteries license the tech from Sonnenschein, so they're also very good. And that includes the West Marine branded gels.



Lifeline certainly makes great AGMs. I'm not sure how good Trojan's AGMs are, but they're a generally good battery builder. Same for US Battery. Rolls AGMs are built by Fullriver and are good (as are the Fullriver branded equivalents, just a matter of red vs blue case).
rslifkin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-06-2023, 05:40   #17
always in motion is the future
 
s/v Jedi's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
Boat: Sundeer 64
Posts: 19,242
Re: Cycle chart for West Marine AGMS?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rslifkin View Post
Unless something has changed, the East Penn made gel batteries license the tech from Sonnenschein, so they're also very good. And that includes the West Marine branded gels.

Lifeline certainly makes great AGMs. I'm not sure how good Trojan's AGMs are, but they're a generally good battery builder. Same for US Battery. Rolls AGMs are built by Fullriver and are good (as are the Fullriver branded equivalents, just a matter of red vs blue case).
Exide has acquired Sonnenschein and is now selling the products. The A600 line is premium, nothing comes close.
https://www.exidegroup.com/eu/en/pro...ein-a600-solar

I think all the brands you listed are good; I just mentioned the top choices for each category
__________________
“It’s a trap!” - Admiral Ackbar.

s/v Jedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-06-2023, 05:47   #18
Registered User

Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 108
Re: Cycle chart for West Marine AGMS?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete7 View Post
AGMs are not great house batteries and you are paying for a design you probably can't use like fast charging and discharging.

Thicker plate batteries for deep cycling will last longer, at a price. I have an AGM for engine start, but won't use them for the domestic batteries. Zac already has them and is likely a low power user, so perhaps not so critical. However, on a 35ft Jenny with lots of electronics you might benefit from choosing another type, like flooded lead acid.

Pete
Good AGMs come in both deep cycle and starting versions. The deep cycle versions are the best of any LA for a house bank other than for their higher cost. Like any LA they do not like to sit at a partial SOC which will shorten their life. Getting them to 100% at least weekly is good. Discharge to less than 50% occasionally will not kill them. Self discharge is very low and they can sit for months with no bad effects. They will also have less voltage drop under higher loads compared to FLA. 13 years and still going strong!
Senojev is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
agm, marine


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Does anyone have the charge profile for West Marine AGMs? chollapete Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 6 05-08-2018 16:35
West Marine Seavolt AGMs SV Demeter Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 9 14-06-2010 09:02
Lifeline AGMs / Short Life? Maine Sail Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 1 08-04-2009 10:29
Equalizing AGMs theonecalledtom Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 16 15-03-2009 04:46
3 stage regulator or internal regulator for AGMs? sgtPluck Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 13 05-09-2008 08:50

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 00:17.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.