Engine Bay Makeover - Rewiring - Including Engine Removal!

[Not Sure]

Good thread. I'm curious though, as to how a Westsail 32 from Alaska made it all the way down to Florida exactly. Sail? Rail? Truck?

[Chipg]

I'm also considering doing a whole rewire on a boat. What were your costs for all the wiring, connectors (read you paid $960 for the pannel), every thing needed to do something like this?

Thanks!

[bobfnbw]

Originally Posted by Chipg

I'm also considering doing a whole rewire on a boat. What were your costs for all the wiring, connectors (read you paid $960 for the pannel), every thing needed to do something like this?

Thanks!

I am in the midst of a full rewire as well on a 40 foot boat.
I can't tell you right now how much I am spending, as its not done yet, but it would be in the neighborhood of 8K.

One thing I have found out is that the little things ADD UP. Like battery cable lugs. OUCH. one is not to bad, but 20 of them hurt. lol..
Everytime I think I am done, I have to order something else. Just put a order thru to genuinedealz for another 250 bucks worth of cable, wire, lugs, etc. for wiring the inverter charger.

The original poster did a great job of it. My hat is off to you sir.
Its not a easy job, its time consuming, and hard on the hands and knees.
Get the best tools you can. Plan it out carefully, and expect it to go bad at times.
But well worth it.

Bob

[Chipg]

Apprecitate it, I have rewired an RV so I was expecting costs to be about 3x as much but not $8k

[blahman]

Originally Posted by Masquerade

...what sort of engine is it?

Masquerade,

We have a Perkins 4-108. It's a rebuild, too. Runs really purdy.

Originally Posted by Not Sure

...how a Westsail 32 from Alaska made it all the way down to Florida exactly. Sail? Rail? Truck?

Not Sure,

Actually, I don't think our boat has been to Alaska. The owners we bought it from (two retired Vets fulfilling a war wish to sail) bought the boat, and the one who registered it lives in Alaska. The other is from Pensacola and that's where we bought the boat. They both purchased the boat in NC from her third owner (we are the fifth), and moved it around the Florida and up to Pensacola.

That said, I've spoken with the second owner and he said the first owner finished the boat (or had factory crews do it after hours) and sailed around the world with his wife and kid over about five years. So maybe she has been to Alaska...supposedly he went "backward".

Originally Posted by bobfnbw

One thing I have found out is that the little things ADD UP.

Bob and Chipg,

BOY are you right! The little stuff made it pricy, and we purchased everything wholesale! I cannot imagine doing it via West Marine or something.

All said and done, we estimate it cost about $3000 for the rewiring. But we wound up doing a lot of that age old routine of "While we've got this apart, might as well...", so there were many expenses that weren't directly related. But $3k for the actual wiring-related stuff is probably close.


Thank you all for your comments! We have about three cans too many open right now; I just ordered all new standing rigging, chainplates, and paint for the deck and spars should be here next week, too. By January 11th, I plan to have pulled the mast (while in the water...yay tabernacle!), replaced the rig and plates, repainted the spars and deck, rebedded the bowsprit (which has been refinished with Bristol Finish and is on the porch), and of course, have our galley/nav area finished. Damn...too much to do. And I can't start...to finish? until after this semester is done.

Fair leads,
Aaron

[Stillraining]

Very impressive Aaron

[bobfnbw]

Originally Posted by Chipg

Apprecitate it, I have rewired an RV so I was expecting costs to be about 3x as much but not $8k

As I said, I haven't added it all up as yet but, Here are some numbers off the invoices. My boat sunk (briefly at the dock, but everything got wet) so it was time to change it all out.


Victron Interface MK.2b
VICmk2b 1 $80.00 $80.00
WUL6YL Battery Cable 6 awg yellow - per 100 ft roll
PACWUL6YL 1 $143.00 $143.00
WUL6RD Battery Cable 6 awg red - per 100 ft roll
PACWUL6RD 1 $143.00 $143.00
Blue Sea Systems #8260 Contura 6 pos Mounting Panel black
BSS8260 1 $9.29 $9.29
Blue Sea Systems #5236 Fuse ATO/ATC 2A
BSS5236 10 $2.33 $23.30
Blue Sea Systems #8284 Switch Contura SPDT (ON)-OFF-ON Blk
BSS8284 1 $12.98 $12.98
Blue Sea Systems #7406 Circuit Breaker FLAT Rocker SC1 30A
BSS7406 1 $17.96 $17.96
Blue Sea Systems #5243 Fuse ATO/ATC 20A
BSS5243 2 $2.33 $4.66
Blue Sea Systems #5235 Fuse ATO/ATC 1A
BSS5235 10 $2.33 $23.30
Blue Sea Systems #7405 Circuit Breaker FLAT Rocker SC1 25A
BSS7405 1 $17.96 $17.96
Blue Sea Systems #1228 Panel 360 120VAC 8 Position RR
BSS1228 1 $234.90 $234.90
Blue Sea Systems #5245 Fuse ATO/ATC 30A
BSS5245 2 $2.33 $4.66
Blue Sea Systems #8273 Panel h2o CB 12VDC 6 pos vert
BSS8273 1 $116.72 $116.72
Blue Sea Systems #1472 Panel 360 DC 2 12V Socket S
BSS1472 2 $34.93 $69.86
Blue Sea Systems #5241 Fuse ATO/ATC 10A
BSS5241 4 $2.33 $9.32
Blue Sea Systems #1222 Panel 360 DC 16 Position RR
BSS1222 1 $412.82 $412.82
Blue Sea Systems #2104 PowerBar 4 x 3/8-16 Stud Terminal
BSS2104 4 $60.43 $241.72
Blue Sea Systems #7148 Circuit Breaker 187 Surface 150A
BSS7148 1 $48.06 $48.06
Blue Sea Systems #2314 MiniBus 5 x 8-32 Common Bus w/cover
BSS2314 2 $10.50 $21.00
Blue Sea Systems #5175 Fuse Terminal 30 Amp
BSS5175 2 $13.13 $26.26
Blue Sea Systems #5185 Fuse Terminal 150 Amp
BSS5185 2 $13.13 $26.26
Blue Sea Systems #3001 Switch Battery HD ON/OFF w AFD
BSS3001 2 $58.12 $116.24
Blue Sea Systems #5191 Fuse Block Terminal 30-300 Amp
BSS5191 2 $17.88 $35.76
Blue Sea Systems #5026 Fuse Block ST Blade 12 circuit w/gd
BSS5026 3 $40.89 $122.67
Blue Sea Systems #1491 Panel 360 DC Main FR 150A Double Pole
BSS1491 1 $124.86 $124.86
Blue Sea Systems #5121 Fuse A3T (Class T) 400 Amp
BSS5121 2 $31.73 $63.46
Blue Sea Systems #5242 Fuse ATO/ATC 15A
BSS5242 4 $2.33 $9.32
Blue Sea Systems #5239 Fuse ATO/ATC 5A
BSS5239 4 $2.33 $9.32
Blue Sea Systems #1512 Panel 360 Gauge Fuel, 2 Tanks
BSS1512 1 $54.88 $54.88
Blue Sea Systems #1001 CableClam .625 inch
BSS1001 1 $15.01 $15.01
Blue Sea Systems #1002 CableClam .825 inch
BSS1002 1 $15.55 $15.55
Blue Sea Systems #1003 CableClam 1.385 inch
BSS1003 1 $17.19 $17.19
W10/3 Triplex Boat Cable 10/3 - 100 ft roll
PACW10/3 1 $147.00 $147.00
Lug closed end 4/0 3/8" ring tinned
PACTAE4/0-38R-T 10 $2.50 $25.00
F4 TOUCH LED TASK LIGHT
FINISH: Black
IMTIL4492 1 $188.10 $188.10
14.5" heavy duty cable ties 50 Pack
PACPLT4H-L0 1 $14.25 $14.25
Lug closed end 6 awg 5/16" ring tinned.
PACTAE6-56R-T 10 $1.00 $10.00
Cable tie mount for #10 screws
PACCTM3S10BK 1 $8.75 $8.75
Blue Sea Systems #1800 Vessel Systems Monitor VSM 422
BSS1800 1 $349.95 $349.95
Blue Sea Systems Fuse Block Class T 225-400A
BSS5502 1 $39.20 $39.20
Balmar Multi Light #458
BAL458 2 $54.95 $109.90
Blue Sea Systems #1810 ultrasonic tank sensor VAM 32" for diesel, water or waste
BSS1810 1 $77.84 $77.84
HP100 Junction Box, semi-rigid light grey polypropylene
ALT326-900 2 $9.95 $19.90
Blue Sea Systems #1168 series 360 main breaker panel 120/240VAC 3 Pole
BSS1168 1 $169.50 $169.50
Victron MultiPlus 12/3000/120-50 120V WHITE VE.Bus Inverter/Charger
VICPMP123021100W 1 $2,295.00 $2,295.00
Subtotal: $5,725.68
Shipping & Handling: $30.00
Tax: $0.00
Order Total: $5,755.68

Plus $4885 for two vector turbo marine air a/c units
Plus another $1500 for various stuff I forgot the first time.
This dosn't include new compressors for the fridge and freezer which I ran out of money for...

As you can see there are some things that you might not need, like the a/c units, and the inverter charger. But my inverter was a older hart unit that was square wave and only a 50 amp charger. The victron is well worth the dollars I put into it.
Every thing was purchased on the net at the lowest prices I could find.

I agree, that if you had to go to west marine, the price would be 2 to 2.5 times that. (for instance, I needed some 2/0 wire to finish the inverter install, genuinedealz has it for $5/foot while west marine wants $15/foot, plus they get to charge you tax.

Also I spent a boat buck or two on new vhf, new stereo etc... when a boat store went out of business here last year. Got good deals there too.

Then there are all the screws, tape, shrink tubing, tools, label maker and supplies... if it wasn't for the insurance check I don't know how it would have gotten done.
I wanted new chart plotter, new inflatable, stuff like that, got wire and a rebuilt engine. I'm good with that. Hopefully I will have enough left over for some new found metal trimatrix ports and new gaskets for the hatches.

Hope this helps.

Bob

[blahman]

Bob,

You are one brave man to add all of those up!! We keep all of our receipts, and they get neatly organized in folder by category. But I don't know why as I don't want to know how much it adds up to...



All,

Something else to add, the little CCFL lights I put together DO NOT WORK. It was a great deal and they put out a lot of light, but the problem is they don't start up on a true DC battery bank voltage, only the stable voltage from a power supply (which is where I did all of my testing.) I'm replacing all of the CCFLs with LED strips I am purchasing from Quasar LED in China.

High Power Light of China Quasar High Power Lights Manufacturers and Supplier.

They have some 25cm strips with SMD 5060 LEDs that put out a whopping 330+ lumens at 3.6W of use. The 9W Alpenglow puts out 600 lumens at best. I plan to purchase 12 of the 25cm strips for the overhead within the boat. I may put them in my light boxes, or do something different. But at $10.50 each, I can buy all 12 for less than the cost of one Alpenglow! I'm also getting some smaller strips and some high power pucks for spreader and deck lights, as well as some pucks for cockpit and under-dodger lighting, and for replacing reading lamps.

For anyone with interest, I've attached the product sheets Quasar sent me.

Good ohmage,
Aaron