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Old 03-02-2013, 11:16   #1
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Honda 2000 problem

I have the Honda 2000i. It was running fine this morning on eco throttle when it suddenly slowed to idle and I lost all output. I verified that there is no output at either the standard plug or the twist lock plug on the gen.

It has plenty of oil, the output indicator is green, the other 2 lites are off. The eco switch behaves normally, it will throttle up when switched off.
I suspected the 20 amp circuit breaker, so I pulled open the front panel and checked for continuity. I do have continuity on the spades of the circuit breaker.
It runs just fine but won't put out 110v.

Anything else I can check?
Is there a good Honda generator shop in the Abacos?

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Re: Honda 2000 problem

If it's running normally and there's no output it might be the inverter. The manual shows how to test the inverter. I had one go on me (very rare they tell me). Luckily my buddy had one from one he'd cannibalized.

But first I would clean the carb thoroughly. They have very small jets and are prone to clogging. If it runs well with a bit of choke, it's the carb.

There are lots of manuals floating around cruisers on CD's.
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It runs great, so I doubt it's the carb. Inverter could be it.

"Manual shows how to test"?
I take it you mean a shop manual? The owners manual doesn't say squat, just "see service center"
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Yes the shop manual. Not difficult but you have to have it. If you're in Marsh Harbour ask for a manual on the net. Like I said, tons of CD's floating around although I prefer the hard copy, easier to check while testing.
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If it's the inverter, are there parts available in Abacos?
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Don't know but you can import from US on cruising permit.
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True, but if the parts are on hand at reasonable cost...
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True, but if the parts are on hand at reasonable cost...
There's always the hope. But I thought you were in the Bahamas. Most of the boat and engine stuff in Abaco comes through Nassau.
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I have the Honda 2000i. It was running fine this morning on eco throttle when it suddenly slowed to idle and I lost all output. I verified that there is no output at either the standard plug or the twist lock plug on the gen.

It has plenty of oil, the output indicator is green, the other 2 lites are off. The eco switch behaves normally, it will throttle up when switched off.
I suspected the 20 amp circuit breaker, so I pulled open the front panel and checked for continuity. I do have continuity on the spades of the circuit breaker.
It runs just fine but won't put out 110v.

Anything else I can check?
Is there a good Honda generator shop in the Abacos?

Thanks
Let us know what it turns out to be. Alot of us here have the Honda 2000i, and the information might be useful down the road. Sorry I can't help, but agree it sounds like the inverter...

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Inverters ain't cheap!

The best online discount price is I found is $330 at dealercostparts.com.

Anyone with experience ordering from this place?
Other suggested suppliers that charge less than full retail of $423?

The gen new is less than $1000. This sucks!
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Re: Honda 2000 problem

How old is your Honda? It might be better to buy a new one. Last year there were a few in GT at a price comparable to the States. Around $850. Save the old one for spares. Check out Nassau prices for a new unit.
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Re: Honda 2000 problem

Would either of these help?

http://www.nccc.cc/misc/Honda_EU_200..._22_2010-b.pdf

honda eu20i eu2000i inverter generator service repair manual.pdf download - 2shared
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Gord, thanks. Both of those fail to download.
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I was able to download from both URLs.
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Re: Honda 2000 problem

Update

I was sent a few pages from the service manual showing the test procedures.
Everything seemed to be OK.
I went to the Honda shop in Marsh Harbor. He suggested bad connections/corrosion.
He also said he does not stock parts due to the high duty and shipping costs.

I checked many of the connections I could see and found no corrosion. I pulled the end of the generator off, the end where the plugs are. The inverter is behind the control panel where the outlets are.
The output wires of the inverter are there on the back side. One of the wires could be wiggled fairly easy. So I pulled the clip off and inspected the connection. It was clean with no corrosion. BUT, the connector was not like any I've seen before. Usually there is some sort of male/female contact. This was a sort of male/male connection. The wire was able to lift off the inverter end of the male plug just slightly causing an air gap. I wrapped some electrical tape around the wire and stretched it tight down to the base of the plug on the inverter. This held the two male connectors together.

Output normal, problem fixed...for now. If the heat slackens the electrical tape it may disconnect again. When I get back to USA I can replace the connector if necessary.

Thanks all for the help.

This is for the Companion version with the 30 amp twist lock plug. Don't know if the other 2000i is the same...
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