No joy on shore power

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by ramblinrod

And you object to safe wiring recommendations?

I'm not shocked! ;-)

FYI, in the 70s and 80's solder was typically 60% lead or higher.

Lead accumulates in your body over your lifetime and can lead to a variety of adverse medical conditions, including neurological damage.

The most common / prolific method of entry is ingestion.

In 2010, the state of California lead (har har) the way to mandating the reduction in the use of lead in brass plumbing products used for domestic water, from a maximum of 4% to only 0.25%, due to the risk of lead leaching into drinking water.

Direct application orally. Hmmm. Have you had your blood levels checked?

Funny...........yes I'm fine but do take Alpha GPC from time to time or my chess scores go down. Plus I'm heavy into exercise which helps ......I hope

I ordered these high priced fuses today and the terminal "thingys" so I guess I can now hook up my 1500 watt inverter instead of just the 400. I'll be able to use a drill and run the wet vac while out "cruising" if I need to.

When you sail beach cats for 15 years in most all conditions in races from 10-100 miles over 15 years in tropical climates it is possible to become complacent. Beach cats don't have engines, batteries, lights, anchors, etc

I was match racing a guy a few years ago up here in December (we were both single handers)...........he on his Alberg 30 and me on my Bristol 27 and it was a beautiful day. Temps near 55 or so water temps around 40 degrees

I was poling out my jib and almost fell into the water. We were on split tacks and maybe 3 miles apart. If I had gone in...........

My power boats usually had one battery hooked to the outboard. that's it. so you didn't have to worry about electrical much but don't lose a prop 5 miles or so out without a radio (I did that at 17.....long story)

I don't object to safe wiring but get tired of overkill. I probably didn't need those fuses since my systems are very low current but it's not a good example to set for new sailors with little electronic/electrical experience and one size doesn't fit all.

Lots of folks are buying boats with tons of electrical/electronics onboard as their first boat.......and many of these boats are quite old and with the original wiring, terminals, lugs, etc.....

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by thomm225

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I don't object to safe wiring but get tired of overkill. I probably didn't need those fuses since my systems are very low current but it's not a good example to set for new sailors with little electronic/electrical experience and one size doesn't fit all.

Lots of folks are buying boats with tons of electrical/electronics onboard as their first boat.......and many of these boats are quite old and with the original wiring, terminals, lugs, etc.....

It's not overkill. Back to basics: think of your batteries as huge amounts of stored energy. If they get shorted out, that energy wants to go ZAP up the wiring, only place it can go. The fuses keep you safe. What's the hell is overkill here?

Sure, there are cars on the road who should have had their brakes redone ages ago. What does this have to do with safety on YOUR boat. At least you're smart enough to ask here. I always get a kick out of guys who ask and then argue about the well-intentioned answers.

If this bothers you so much, go over to all those other boats and bug them. After, of course, you fix your boat. I'm sure they'll all appreciate your concern for their safety.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by thomm225

........ I probably didn't need those fuses since my systems are very low current .....

That statement is proof positive that you don't know enough about electricity to be doing electrical work on your boat.

That's not in any way intended as an insult, it's a warning.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Stu Jackson

They'll all appreciate your concern for their safety.

Thanks. I thought so too.

The boat I'm sailing has had the same systems for 42 years six of which was with me owning it.

I just thought I'd get some fuses for my batteries. Arguing a few points with the good fellows on CF helped. It reminded me of when I was a tech. (I've been in management since 1995 which means hiring, firing, health insurance, reports, supplies, clearances, budgets, etc)

My systems are low current which means they have very small wires

I've blown a couple inverters on the boat. They weren't fused. There was smoke but no fire. I did lose my fan for the night though not having AC so I robbed the one from the inverter.

It made quite the whine though.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by thomm225

................ I believe the boatyard wanted $85.00/HR to go over the boat but I decided to do it all myself ......

That $85.00/HR sys the wages of someone with the skills and training to do the work properly. And overhead of course.

Yes, you can do it yourself for less, but if you don't know what you're doing and the boat catches on fire or electrocutes people, the savings is probably not worth it.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by thomm225

.................. My systems are low current which means they have very small wires ....................

So what happens when those very small wires get shorted together?

You tell me and I'll tell you if you are correct.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by rwidman

So what happens when those very small wires get shorted together?

You tell me and I'll tell you if you are correct.

If you rub them together they get warm........

[nematon785]

This REALLY isn't that complicated.

Landing a 747 on instrument approach is complicated.

We are talking about the most rudimentary form of electrical distribution here.

I think the guy can figure out how to avoid blowing up the entire boat yard, give him some credit.

[boatpoker]

if you really want to learn something ... one of the best I have seen. .............
A Guide to Inspecting Marine Electrical Systems

And for inspecting other aspects of a vessel
Marine Survey 101

Then just for a laugh
Stoopid Tricks by Boat Owners

Or how about
Stoopid Tricks by Boat Builders

[ramblinrod]

Originally Posted by nematon785

This REALLY isn't that complicated.

Landing a 747 on instrument approach is complicated.

We are talking about the most rudimentary form of electrical distribution here.

I think the guy can figure out how to avoid blowing up the entire boat yard, give him some credit.

Please google "Boat Fire" and click on the "image" tab.

You are correct, it is not complicated at all.

"Before connecting power to wiring of suspect condition, inspect the wiring."

How can we make it more simple?

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by nematon785

This REALLY isn't that complicated.

Landing a 747 on instrument approach is complicated.

We are talking about the most rudimentary form of electrical distribution here.

I think the guy can figure out how to avoid blowing up the entire boat yard, give him some credit.

You've been around CF long enough now to know these guys aren't going to lay off easily especially on anything technical

Also, sometimes when you see a rather harsh statement it could be pay back for a statement that was made the other way in another thread on another day.

Many of us "know" each other sort of.

The fire thing is scary though offshore or in the slip. In the slip though if you blow your boat up the boat next to you could go and so on down the line. Offshore.............not good either

[ramblinrod]

Originally Posted by nematon785

The tune has changed. subtle, but definitely changed.

FWIW, the words marked as a quotation in post# 101 is a socially unethical, false fabrication by nematon785, who apparently does not even own a boat, and cannot be trusted.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by thomm225

If you rub them together they get warm........

Apparently you misunderstood the question.

Try again.

[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by ramblinrod

FWIW, the words marked as a quotation in post# 101 is a socially unethical, false fabrication by nematon785, who apparently does not even own a boat, and cannot be trusted.

Post reported.

[nematon785]

You are right, I don't have a boat right now. However I have been at sea above 50 degrees lat in winter for many months at a time, and not born yesterday. No fancy certificate of "marine specialist"

You are right nematon not to be trusted. you never met me, you don't know me, your trust would be misplaced and foolhardy.

Just stepping up to some people running around calling other people naive and dangerous when they don't know them, never met them.

A cruiser afraid to or can't fix his own stuff is in more danger than he realizes. Can't call a specialist at sea, and you bet your fanny stuff gonna break...