No joy on shore power

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by rwidman

Apparently you misunderstood the question.

Try again.

I didn't misunderstand anything.

I'm not going to talk basic electronics every time some guy that knows enough about it to be dangerous asks on some forum.

I had been planning to fuse my batteries for quite some time so I discussed it a little on here and in the process ended up with the proper fuses

I still think with my simple systems I would be okay without them but it was on my mind so I took care of it

[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by nematon785

nematon not to be trusted. you never met me, you don't know me, your trust would be misplaced and foolhardy.

Surely you see that falsifying a quotation by another poster may make you somewhat suspect.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by thomm225

I didn't misunderstand anything.

I'm not going to talk basic electronics every time some guy that knows enough about it to be dangerous asks on some forum.

I had been planning to fuse my batteries for quite some time so I discussed it a little on here and in the process ended up with the proper fuses

I still think with my simple systems I would be okay without them but it was on my mind so I took care of it

I'm just thankful that your boat isn't in the slip next to mine!

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by nematon785

A cruiser afraid to or can't fix his own stuff is in more danger than he realizes. Can't call a specialist at sea, and you bet your fanny stuff gonna break...

This is the point I was making earlier.

You need to be able to repair your equipment and it's good we have folks like Ramblin to correct us when we are wrong

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by rwidman

I'm just thankful that your boat isn't in the slip next to mine!

Yeah, me too!

Even though I have owned many power boats, now days I don't like noisy, smelly power boats too close to me

Did you figure out your question about your shorted wires yet or do I need to refer you to a website?

There's help available online for folks that want to learn about electronics and electrical ..........

You can probably also get a book at your local library.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by thomm225

Yeah, me too!

Even though I have owned many power boats, now days I don't like noisy, smelly power boats too close to me

Did you figure out your question about your shorted wires yet or do I need to refer you to a website?

There's help available online for folks that want to learn about electronics and electrical ..........


You can probably also get a book at your local library.

It's your shorted wires we were talking about, not mine.

I know what will happen. I just wonder if you do.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by rwidman

It's your shorted wires we were talking about, not mine.

I know what will happen. I just wonder if you do.

I don't have any shorted wires.

Where did you get that idea.

All my systems are fused so if there was a short.......

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by thomm225

I don't have any shorted wires.

Where did you get that idea.

All my systems are fused so if there was a short.......
..............

Your earlier posts indicated that your systems were low current and didn't need fuses. Now you are changing your story. My replies were directed at your earlier posts..

The rest of your post is irrelevant and questionable.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by rwidman

Your earlier posts indicated that your systems were low current and didn't need fuses. Now you are changing your story. My replies were directed at your earlier posts..

The rest of your post is irrelevant and questionable.

You misunderstood, but you should know better.

My boat is a Bristol 27 and they all came with fuses and switches for each separate device/light

I was talking battery fuses.

[ramblinrod]

Originally Posted by nematon785

Just stepping up to some people running around calling other people naive and dangerous when they don't know them, never met them.

One doesn't need to meet or know someone, to develop an opinion that their described actions are dangerous and naïve.

Connecting power to a boat with suspect wiring before conducting a proper inspection IS dangerous and naïve.

From dictionary.com

Dangerous:

1. full of danger or risk; causing danger; perilous; risky; hazardous; unsafe

2. able or likely to cause physical injury:

Naïve:

2. having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information; credulous:

3. having or marked by a simple, unaffectedly direct style reflecting little or no formal training or technique:

A cruiser afraid to or can't fix his own stuff is in more danger than he realizes.

As I posted before, it is wise for any cruiser to have a rudimentary understanding of all systems and to be able to make SAFE emergency repairs.

However, a cruiser who modifies systems in an unsafe (dangerous and naive) manner, is by very definition, in more danger than they realize.

Can't call a specialist at sea, and you bet your fanny stuff gonna break

Well, actually I can; I am always nearby myself. ;-)

Kidding aside, as I stated before, if someone makes a less than expert emergency repair, when possible, they should have it checked by someone who knows how to do it properly and safely.

Edit added: Else, in time, as more stuff breaks, they end up with a boatload of "unsafe".

All that aside, you are entitled to your opinion, and have a right to express disagreement, but fabricating false quotations is not cool.

[Bigjim]

OK, for all those interested, here is an update on the original target of this thread:

I was able to get back to the boat this morning for the first time in two weeks. (It is currently 3.5 hours away from my home.)

I brought my multimeter this time and was able to test the batteries. They are Group 27 AC/Delco marine batteries. When I tested both I was shocked to find that both showed over 12 volts. So, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with them.

One battery connector was a bit corroded, but the others were fine.

I went into the cabin again and tested the switchboard still had no luck with any combinations of battery switches.

I pulled the switch panel and tested the connections and was surprised to find again that there was power coming to the back of the panel. So, the cables from both batteries to the switch panel were fine.

I contacted the service department at the boatyard and one of their technicians said he'd drop by tomorrow.

The saga continues.

You may now discuss...

[thomm225]

Wow!

This is like one of those TV Shows back in the day where at the end of the hour they say to be continued........(next week!)

RR would be proud of you.

You were so close yet so far from seeing what the problem was....... too bad you didn't check the voltage at one of the light sockets in the cabin while you were there

It could still be nothing more than dirty battery connections or weak batteries are tons of other stuff which isn't that hard to fix, but if that isn't your thing, it's a good thing you called the tech.

There are folks here that call for help to adjust their stuffing box

[Bigjim]

Originally Posted by thomm225

...You were so close yet so far from seeing what the problem was....... too bad you didn't check the voltage at one of the light sockets in the cabin while you were there

It could still be nothing more than dirty battery connections or weak batteries are tons of other stuff which isn't that hard to fix, but if that isn't your thing, it's a good thing you called the tech.

There are folks here that call for help to adjust their stuffing box

One thing does not preclude the other. Yes, I will charge the batteries. But the primary issue was the "lack of power".

My power panel has a voltmeter built into it. It has audible tests for both batteries. So, forget the cabin lights for now. I want to know what's happening in the panel. Why would I test the lights if I can't be sure the switch is working first?

If I had power in my panel, my voltmeter was working and the battery testers were functioning, I would move to the lights or bilge pump. If NOTHING is working, my first culprit is the power panel itself.

I once had a faulty ignition switch in my car. The car would not turn over, the radio didn't turn on, etc. The FIRST place I checked was the battery. Then the ignition switch. Then the starter. Then the radio. If car doesn't turn over, I would not check the radio first.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Bigjim

One thing does not preclude the other. Yes, I will charge the batteries. But the primary issue was the "lack of power".

My power panel has a voltmeter built into it. It has audible tests for both batteries. So, forget the cabin lights for now. I want to know what's happening in the panel. Why would I test the lights if I can't be sure the switch is working first?

If I had power in my panel, my voltmeter was working and the battery testers were functioning, I would move to the lights or bilge pump. If NOTHING is working, my first culprit is the power panel itself.

I once had a faulty ignition switch in my car. The car would not turn over, the radio didn't turn on, etc. The FIRST place I checked was the battery. Then the ignition switch. Then the starter. Then the radio. If car doesn't turn over, I would not check the radio first.

Now you give all these "new" details

I was going by what you put in the email I responded to not everything you knew but didn't bother to write in that post which basically said you had power to the panel and then you stopped

This is the problem when trying to troubleshoot based on someone's input without doing the measurements, tests, etc yourself (as in one cannot troubleshoot your problem with bits and pieces of info)

It's good you called the tech. Your problem should take 5-10 minutes to troubleshoot

Good luck and good sailing!

[Bigjim]

Originally Posted by thomm225

Now you give all these "new" details

I was going by what you put in the email I responded to not everything you knew but didn't bother to write in that post which basically said you had power to the panel and then you stopped

This is the problem when trying to troubleshoot based on someone's input without doing the measurements, tests, etc yourself (as in one cannot troubleshoot your problem with bits and pieces of info)

It's good you called the tech. Your problem should take 5-10 minutes to troubleshoot

Good luck and good sailing!

There are no "new" details. You joked that this is a continuing adventure series so I assumed you have been following the thread and had read the original post.

All this information was published in previous comments. I said I didn't have my testing equipment with me the first time. I said there was no joy in the panel. But I could not test the batteries or the connections. I also said I was coming this week to work on the boat.

The "new" details are the facts that batteries were good and fully charged. I also confirmed that the connections from the batteries to the panel were good. I said that I was going to do that and I did. I also said I would refer to technical help once I had the need or opportunity. Both should happen today.

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