Wow - Induction Cooktop

[weavis]

Its not as bad as you think. The generator will only be run for specific purposes and perhaps at specific times. On a mono, sticking it in the cockpit for an hour or so, It can be checked on. No problems.

[zboss]

Originally Posted by Tillsbury

A generator is a pretty hefty piece of kit, and ideally you want it fairly central and low down in the boat if you can. Certainly not high up on the stern where many gas lockers are.

We have a single plate induction as well as our propane. We use the induction when we need a third burner and I don't think a generator is needed.

We have a moderate amount of solar (595 watts) coupled with three 110 Ah Firefly batteries. Overall, by noon our solar panels are able to be at maximum output but we are wasting watts because the batteries are over 80% capacity. I imagine that if we had 330 Ah of lithium we would be full. The majority of power that could be produced by the solar panels after reaching 80%... doesn't. So even if we needed to add another 50 Ah back into the batteries - its not a problem.

We do just fine with the fireflies (and I think we would do even better with lithiums) but we would have to run our honda often when we had wet Trojans.

[kryg]

Interesting, I have just installed 720 Watt solar panels, and a new AGM 860 Ah battery bank. All boats system is 12 Volt. I want to use an induction cook top, the question is what inventer are you using in your system? Thanks for sharing,

Originally Posted by zboss

We have a single plate induction as well as our propane. We use the induction when we need a third burner and I don't think a generator is needed.

We have a moderate amount of solar (595 watts) coupled with three 110 Ah Firefly batteries. Overall, by noon our solar panels are able to be at maximum output but we are wasting watts because the batteries are over 80% capacity. I imagine that if we had 330 Ah of lithium we would be full. The majority of power that could be produced by the solar panels after reaching 80%... doesn't. So even if we needed to add another 50 Ah back into the batteries - its not a problem.

We do just fine with the fireflies (and I think we would do even better with lithiums) but we would have to run our honda often when we had wet Trojans.

[coopec43]

Originally Posted by transmitterdan

How will it be cooled in a locker? How will it get fresh air to run? Where will the exhaust go?

This seems like a bad idea to run a generator in a locker designed for LPG. Please be sure you have a CO monitor on board and plenty of fire extinguishers.

A LPG locker is completely sealed off from the rest of the yacht. If a LPG bottle leaks gas it would flow overboard through the vent.


Stowage of generators that have integral fuel tanks containing petrol and spare fuel cans

• in a self-draining, vapour-tight and fire-resistant locker, or
• on open deck, but never over or near deck boards where, if leak occurs, dripping petrol or stray vapours could find their way through into the boat’s interior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s6IcmKv8XI

[StuM]

Originally Posted by coopec43

A LPG locker is completely sealed off from the rest of the yacht. If a LPG bottle leaks gas it would flow overboard through the vent.


Stowage of generators that have integral fuel tanks containing petrol and spare fuel cans

• in a self-draining, vapour-tight and fire-resistant locker, or
• on open deck, but never over or near deck boards where, if leak occurs, dripping petrol or stray vapours could find their way through into the boat’s interior.

Stowage is NOT operation.

[coopec43]

Originally Posted by StuM

Stowage is NOT operation.

If you looked at the video clip you would see it RUNNING!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s6IcmKv8XI

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by coopec43

If you looked at the video clip you would see it RUNNING!!!

That is a propane locker?

[transmitterdan]

Originally Posted by coopec43

If you looked at the video clip you would see it RUNNING!!!

And everything you see on the internet is true...

It is not running inside a sealed compartment with only an overboard drain. I feel pretty sure a Honda 2kW unit will not run long without a source of fresh air. In a sealed compartment it will suck in its own exhaust which does not provide enough oxygen to run.

Running a generator in a sealed compartment without a fresh air supply and a way to get rid of exhaust gases. Run it on deck downwind of people.

[coopec43]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

That is a propane locker?

I'm surprised someone like you ask that?

I would run my genset in the LPG locker with the lid open to get air for the motor, air for cooling and get rid of exhaust gases. I think the locker is big enough to do that. If not, I'd lift it out on deck and run it there (making sure exhaust gases couldn't flow down into the inside of the yacht).

Some people were apparently thinking I was going to run the genset in a fully enclosed locker with no ventilation (you can't do that) because you need air for cooling the motor, some air to run the motor and you need to get rid of exhaust gases. (If you watch the video clip you will see how that can be achieved)

[a64pilot]

I watched your video, and if the same air induction measures and exhaust system was installed, then yes you could probably do it.
But to my earlier post. At some extent instead of reinventing a built in generator, perhaps you should just purchase one.

This hasn’t been brought up, but the power, quality wise of the Honda EU2000 and I assume the 2200 as in voltage stability, noise and frequency stability, pretty much blows away any built it, even the larger more expensive ones.
My built in will vary between 58 hz and 62 Hz, based on load, higher load sags the RPM slightly and the Hz sags too.
Voltage will go from about 115 to 125.
All within limits of course, but the Honda is 120V and 60Hz and never varies.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by coopec43

If you looked at the video clip you would see it RUNNING!!!

Just because it is running, doesn't make it is a good idea.


You see all sorts of stupid things being done on the internet

[cj88]

Not recommending it but I wonder how this is going?

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post2180512

I came across this sometime back too.

[coopec43]

Originally Posted by transmitterdan

I feel pretty sure a Honda 2kW unit will not run long without a source of fresh air. In a sealed compartment it will suck in its own exhaust which does not provide enough oxygen to run.

Thank you for that advice (I was not aware).

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by cj88

Not recommending it but I wonder how this is going?



http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post2180512



I came across this sometime back too.

The picture is interesting, it may work as it combines both exhaust and cooling air, thereby greatly reducing the exhaust temp. If it doesn’t have too much back pressure for the cooling air it ought to work.
Honda has a tendency to derate, meaning their equipment will put out more power than they say, few if any complain about that, so there may be some head room that will allow some back pressure and it still work fine.

[Go Wildcats]

For those that enjoy the art of cooking, how does the induction compare to gas in regards to controlling the process and getting an even heat across the pan?