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capn_billl · 11-11-2011, 06:25

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Originally Posted by Lance835

Thank you all for all your inputs! Since we will be moving around the florida coast, and the islands how do we locate these Hurricane holes?

Also where is a good place to stay 5 degrees north?

It would appear to me that one will need to know these holes way ahead of time and not start looking as the storm approaches.

Yes, Yes, Yes. And pick several, and get there first, first sign of aproaching hurricane. Last hurricane I went to "MY" hurricane hole and someone beat me to it. I had to go to hole D.

Rakuflames · 11-11-2011, 06:37

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Originally Posted by capn_billl

Yes, Yes, Yes. And pick several, and get there first, first sign of aproaching hurricane. Last hurricane I went to "MY" hurricane hole and someone beat me to it. I had to go to hole D.

Yes! It's very unlikely that you are the only person who has noticed a good hurricane hole.

capn_billl · 11-11-2011, 09:33

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Originally Posted by barnakiel

So, we will make an educated, informed guess, and we will not know whether it was wise or stupid to make the decision we made until the storm blows over.

Now you say there is a problem with the attitude I presented (and you will stay at home where you are lead to believe YOU are safer?). Now you please let me know how you evaluate that it is safer in the house than in the boat? Perhaps there is a land-slide and the house will be flattened while the boat will just marginally make it (without your help though).

b.

Land isn't necessarily safer. One of my neighbors entire family Drowned, ...in their attic,...they had a two story house.

My boat survived, There were many boats on the hard, they ended up stacked on the freeway, ...underneath the boats left tied up at dock.

Basically all the boats within 2 miles of the coast ended up on the freeway or stuck in the sides of houses, Mine was 4 miles up a canal.

Rakuflames · 11-11-2011, 09:47

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Originally Posted by capn_billl

Land isn't necessarily safer. One of my neighbors entire family Drowned, ...in their attic,...they had a two story house.

My boat survived, There were many boats on the hard, they ended up stacked on the freeway, ...underneath the boats left tied up at dock.

Basically all the boats within 2 miles of the coast ended up on the freeway or stuck in the sides of houses, Mine was 4 miles up a canal.

Riding it out or staying in one's home aren't the only choices.

zeehag · 11-11-2011, 09:56

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Originally Posted by Rakuflames

Riding it out or staying in one's home aren't the only choices.

correct-- some storms are able to be sailed thru--as in gulf of mexico-- the huge storms are not so easily sailed-- is better to find a hiding place for named ones.
lightning storms off tampa bay may be scary but the sailing is awesome.....is skinny water one must beware in those-- with huge boxy seas -- we spent the better part of a year sailing thru those---i wasnt happy about them but we did get some good heavy weather sailing !!

some folks have their home as their boat-- so is easily solved-- stay in home and keep sailing her.

delmarrey · 11-11-2011, 11:27

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Originally Posted by zeehag

correct-- some storms are able to be sailed thru--as in gulf of mexico-- the huge storms are not so easily sailed-- is better to find a hiding place for named ones.
lightning storms off tampa bay may be scary but the sailing is awesome.....is skinny water one must beware in those-- with huge boxy seas -- we spent the better part of a year sailing thru those---i wasnt happy about them but we did get some good heavy weather sailing !!

some folks have their home as their boat-- so is easily solved-- stay in home and keep sailing her.

This where getting in the deep and putting out a sea anchor might be fun!

CharlieCobra · 14-11-2011, 05:31

Uh huh....

Rakuflames · 14-11-2011, 06:42

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Originally Posted by zeehag

correct-- some storms are able to be sailed thru--as in gulf of mexico-- the huge storms are not so easily sailed-- is better to find a hiding place for named ones.
lightning storms off tampa bay may be scary but the sailing is awesome.....is skinny water one must beware in those-- with huge boxy seas -- we spent the better part of a year sailing thru those---i wasnt happy about them but we did get some good heavy weather sailing !!

some folks have their home as their boat-- so is easily solved-- stay in home and keep sailing her.

ROTFL, Zee -- I meant that one can secure their boat and then leave their home for higher ground! You may have the skill to sail through a hurricane but I do not, and I have no reason to think that MY boat is up to it. MOST people should not be staying on their boat in a storm.

Fullmoon · 14-11-2011, 06:52

This is the best weather sight available. Hurricane Spaghetti Models / Spaghetti Charts / Tropical Forecast / Hurricane Charts Models / Tropical Update It has over a dozen links including most of the ones mentioned above. We have been living in the BVI since June of 2010, which means we have two hurricane seasons under our belt. The hands down best port in the USVI and BVI to weather a storm is Nanny Cay. We survived 105kt winds last year without a scratch. We DID NOT stay on the boat. I have yet to meet a person who stayed on their boat during a Hurricane who would do it again. I can live without bragging that I have done it. We have weathered lesser storms there also, and did stay on board. The mooring balls have warnings to get off if winds are over 40/50. I have seen the results of not doing that. It was not a pretty sight. We toured Tortola after Earl and saw a lot of damaged boats left at anchor, on balls and at non-floating docks. Again, use the link above for weather. I have over 20 weather sites on my computer, but SpaghettiModels is my first stop.

mbianka · 14-11-2011, 07:07

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Originally Posted by Sailor g

The bad thing about cold storms is that cold wind has more molecules by volume and packs more of a punch- so it can be the same windspeed and do more damage. Harder to stay on task when your freezing too!

Interesting. I was talking to one of the guys who runs the boatyard the other day. The harbor having been on the bad side of Hurricane Irene I think just one boat ended up on shore. But, in one recent Nor' Easter they had 25 up on the beach. So if you have a choice better to pick a warm storm.

zeehag · 14-11-2011, 07:13

raku--i dont sail thru hurrycames--anything with a name is worth sitting out somewhere safe...we hunkered down in ida in slidell and watched the water and listened to the wind. she went to the east of us and we were happy about that.
here in mazatlan when the jova scare was creating a stressor for many was merely watch and pray situation--but i dont leave my boat to chances.
i have remained on board on moorings thru pnw storms, which are cyclonic and cold, sometimes having very low barometic pressure and packing some wicked winds. 60-90+ kts have been recorded in these more frequently than many believe. they are just too frequent to name, and COLD.

delmarrey · 14-11-2011, 11:16

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Originally Posted by zeehag

i have remained on board on moorings thru pnw storms, which are cyclonic and cold, sometimes having very low barometic pressure and packing some wicked winds. 60-90+ kts have been recorded in these more frequently than many believe. they are just too frequent to name, and COLD.

What?

You don't like being blasted with ice water.