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Old 02-06-2023, 12:45   #76
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Re: Ocean surface temperatures at all time high

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Ahh. For years, I keep listening to zealots and activists whining and complaining about "Big Pharma,. or "Big Oil," or "Big Tobacco," or "Big fill-in-the-blank," being biased, untrustworthy liars who can’t/shouldn’t be trusted. Yet when I mention that "Big Academia," or Big Alternative Energy," just might might be a little biased, it’s a different story.
The transgressions, (against the public good -in their own self-interest), of Big Pharma, Big Oil, and/or Big Tobacco are all well documented, and un-refuted.

Perhaps you should document how Big Academia, or Big Alternative Energy, etc are "a little biased", rather than just mentioning the claim, without authoritative evidence ...
... as I did, when I posted about DuPont and 3M knowingly concealing the serious health risks of so-called ‘forever chemicals’ in their products for decades.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...34fc22fb&ei=14

A sea surface temperature anomaly in the North Atlantic has scientists working to understand how record high warmth for this time of year could have occurred.

Changing wind patterns, global warming, a lack of Saharan dust or a combination of all three have been suggested, with questions raised about how the anomaly will affect atmospheric temperatures and weather.

In early March, the North Atlantic temperature rose above previous records and is now 1C warmer than the 1981-2011 mean average for this time of year, according to data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and presented by the University of Maine.

The most recent record is June 11 at 22.7C, which passes the previous record for the same day in 2010 by 0.5C.

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“There is a blocking high pressure system over the northern parts of the Atlantic in the higher and lower parts of the atmosphere, which is causing the circulation to be different from the typical climatology, which is a low-pressure system in the north Atlantic.

“The change from a low pressure to a high pressure means the dominating trade winds over the subtropical Atlantic are westerly instead of the normal trade easterly winds.

“This change in wind direction results in more ocean warming over the region.”
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Climate Shocks Are Making Parts of America Uninsurable. It Just Got Worse.

This month, the largest homeowner insurance company in California, State Farm, announced that it would stop selling coverage to homeowners. That’s not just in wildfire zones, but everywhere in the state.....

In parts of eastern Kentucky ravaged by storms last summer, the price of flood insurance is set to quadruple. In Louisiana, the top insurance official says the market is in crisis, and is offering millions of dollars in subsidies to try to draw insurers to the state.

And in much of Florida, homeowners are increasingly struggling to buy storm coverage. Most big insurers have pulled out of the state already, sending homeowners to smaller private companies that are straining to stay in business — a possible glimpse into California’s future if more big insurers leave......

California’s woes resemble a slow-motion version of what Florida experienced after Hurricane Andrew devastated Miami in 1992. The losses bankrupted some insurers and caused most national carriers to pull out of the state.

In response, Florida established a complicated system: a market based on small insurance companies, backed up by Citizens Property Insurance Corporation, a state-mandated company that would provide windstorm coverage for homeowners who couldn’t find private insurance....

In 2021, FEMA, which runs the [National Flood Insurance program], began setting rates equal to the actual flood risk facing homeowners — an effort to better communicate the true danger facing different properties, and also to stanch the losses for the government.

Those increases, which are being phased in over years, in some cases amount to enormous jumps in price. The current cost of flood insurance for single-family homes nationwide is $888 a year, according to FEMA. Under the new, risk-based pricing, that average cost would be $1,808.

Brave sailors arrived here and left a rock on the shore with a date carved into it +/- 300 years ago. 300 years later, that same rock can still be seen on the shore even after the Industrial Revolution and the 20’ predictions by a Mr Gore.
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You and the media may be concerned about anomalous warmth and high pressure in the waer of the North Atlantic. I am more concerned about anomalous cold water and low pressure in the North Pacific. Our local air temperatures are 10-15 degrees below the historical average, and my tomatoes are not growing well. The Pacific High has yet to establish a good summer pattern, and the Transpac race may be a beat instead of a run.

The local media has picked up on this second anomaly, but it doesn't fit the global warming agenda, so the only place you are going to hear about it is here. In either there is not a damn thing either of us can do about it.
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You and the media may be concerned about anomalous warmth and high pressure in the water of the North Atlantic. I am more concerned about anomalous cold water and low pressure in the North Pacific. Our local air temperatures are 10-15 degrees below the historical average, and my tomatoes are not growing well. The Pacific High has yet to establish a good summer pattern, and the Transpac race may be a beat instead of a run.

The local media has picked up on this second anomaly, but it doesn't fit [nor invalidate] the global warming agenda, so the only place you are going to hear about it is here. In either there is not a damn thing either of us can do about it.
The Pacific Decadal Oscillation [PDO] is Currently in a Negative [cool] Phase, which is associated with cool sea surface temperatures along the Pacific coast of North America, while the center of the North Pacific ocean is still quite warm.

As of May 2023, the Pacific decadal oscillation is in a negative [cool] phase, with the index reaching approximately -2.0. The negative phase started in late 2019, and reached its nadir in late 2021, with an index value of approximately -2.9. The PDO has been in a negative phase for about 2.5 years.
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Re: Ocean surface temperatures at all time high

As Mickey Mantle said, about baseball:
“You don't realize how easy this game is, until you get up in that broadcasting booth.”
Likewise, I didn’t realize how easy understanding our climate is, until I got on the CF.

Temperatures in the world's oceans surged to new levels in April, nearing an average of 70 degrees Fahrenheit [69.9 F/21.1C] for the first time on record, according to the University of Maine’s Climate Change Institute*.

Some additional [to PDO*] factors that might be contributing to unseasonably cool temperatures in the PNW:

In much of the U.S. West Coast sea water staying cooler, than its 30-year average. You're getting quite a good wind blowing to the south, along almost the whole coast, and that tends to cause upwelling currents, which have helped keep coastal waters cooler.

Three consecutive years of La Nińa ocean conditions also helped the West Coast stay cool.

Southward plunges [troughs] in the jet stream, over both the East and Northwest U.S. would drag cooler air southward, into the East, and also continue a pipeline of frontal systems, with rain and some mountain snow in the Northwest.

* Daily Sea Surface Temperature (world)https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/

*Pacific Decadal Oscillation [PDO]
https://www.worldclimateservice.com/...l-oscillation/
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Ahh. For years, I keep listening to zealots and activists whining and complaining about "Big Pharma,. or "Big Oil," or "Big Tobacco," or "Big fill-in-the-blank," being biased, untrustworthy liars who can’t/shouldn’t be trusted. Yet when I mention that "Big Academia," or Big Alternative Energy," just might might be a little biased, it’s a different story.
Unless you think the data is faked, it is out there and for you to consume and interpret however you'd like.
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Temperatures in parts of the North Atlantic Ocean are soaring off the charts, with an “exceptional” marine heat wave happening off the coasts of the United Kingdom and Ireland, sparking concerns about impacts on marine life.

Parts of the North Sea are experiencing a category 4 marine heat wave – defined as “extreme” – according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. In some areas, water temperatures are up to 5 degrees Celsius (9 Fahrenheit) hotter than usual.

Global oceans have been exceptionally warm for months. April and May saw the highest ocean surface temperatures for those two months since records began in 1850.

. . .

It is “way beyond the worst-case predictions for the changing climate of the region. It’s truly frightening how fast this ocean basin is changing,” he told CNN. Risks are high for marine species, such as fish, coral and seagrass – many of which adapted to survive within certain temperature ranges. Hotter water can stress and even kill them.

“There’s a very high potential that animals such as oysters, plants and algae will be killed by this European marine heatwave, particularly within shallow waters where temperatures may super heat beyond the background levels,”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-atl...141320334.html
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The Atlantic hits record-breaking temperatures for June. Here’s what it means for hurricane season.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2023/06...ricane-season/

Things are supposed to warm up in June, but not this much — especially the waters off the East Atlantic, where many hurricanes form.

Recent National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration data shows that sea-surface temperatures globally are well above normal for this time of year — last month had the warmest May ocean temperatures since 1850, when record keeping began, registering 1.53 degrees higher than normal.

What matters most to Floridians is the water temperature off the west coast of Africa. The sea surface temperature there is as much as 3.5 degrees hotter than the norm. That energy can act as an accelerant to this summer’s hurricane season, sending hurricanes toward the U.S. earlier than expected.

When meteorologist and hurricane researcher Brian McNoldy, of the University of Miami, got a look at the data, he took to Twitter and wrote, “Tropical Atlantic water temperature is fast-forwarding by about 2.5 months. … The ocean is primed for action, already.”
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Oops, the North Atlantic is cooling off again.
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Oops, the North Atlantic is cooling off again.
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"It's cold where I am, so climate change is a hoax, and global average ocean temperatures increasing is irrelevant".
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Oops, the North Atlantic is cooling off again.


Actually, that is the tropical Atlantic.
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tropical tidbits.com under SST anomaly time series, Main (Hurricane) Development Region. Its more equatorial, but the MDR to its north is also showing declining SST.

I didn't choose the graph. It came from the Gcaptain forum

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The North Atlantic Ridge has regained its normal strength in recent days which has resulted in stronger trade winds and a significant cooling trend in the Atlantic Main Development Region from highs reached during the 2nd week of June.
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