US coasts sea level rise 10 to 12 inches by 2050

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by donradcliffe

I was skeptical of the title of this thread because I have been in the same harbor for 50 years, and my mark one eyeball tells me I can maybe see a one or two inch change in the sea level, but it is masked by changes from tide and wind.

So I decided to do a little "scientific" research. I downloaded the attached tide gauge readings from NOAA, which covers over 80 years of observations at nearby Alameda.

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=9414750

I can only hope that no one has fiddled with the data, but the note that "the average seasonal cycle has been removed" does not inspire confidence.

Note that the sea level in alameda has risen by less than 3 inches in the last 80 years.

Note that there is NO acceleration of sea level rise in the last 10 or 20 years.

I am familiar with how our government works. NOAA employs scientists, but they report to politicians. The politicians want studies that support their agendas. The scientist that says "sea levels will rise by 10 to 12 inches in the next 28 years" gets a promotion. The scientist that says "history doesn't support this prediction" gets fired. The other scientists get the message.

I call BS on the title of this thread.

The data you presented for Alameda is based a linear trend. Of course it shows no acceleration.

This data for Alameda is not from a NOAA site.

The quadratic trend, shown in darker orange, indicates that sea level is not only rising at this tidal station, but that the rate of sea-level rise is accelerating with time. In other words, the rate of sea-level rise is best represented by a quadratic curve rather than a straight line. Comparing the quadratic and linear projections shows an exponential rise in sea level will result in a significantly higher sea level in future years

https://www.vims.edu/research/produc...alca/index.php

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by rsementi

NOAA also lied about temperature history. They literally moved observation points and they omit data. Tony Heller's YT videos proves this to be true. He compares the raw data to the "released" data.

Judith Curry has a three part discussion of Heller's assertions. She found his claims to be "bogus" and "problematic"

https://judithcurry.com/2014/07/07/u...perature-data/

https://judithcurry.com/2015/02/09/b...perature-data/

https://judithcurry.com/2015/02/22/u...ervation-bias/

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by ikebartlett

We are still coming out of an ice age, the ice is still melting. Chicago raised its whole City a century ago because of flooding, we’ll deal with it. If you’re worried about it then don’t buy waterfront property.

Prior to the Industrial Revolution we had been cooling for 6000 years.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Hamish_ct

Let's see the data for the past 500 yrs. These graphs are misleading because they only represent a small data set.

How about 2500 years?

[rsementi]

https://alexepstein.substack.com/p/1...utm_source=url

Plenty of evidence. We are not in trouble with the climate, we are in trouble with ideology.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Gingersnap

See attachment of Sydney Harbour.

Fort Denison sea level changes.



https://www.psmsl.org/data/obtaining/stations/196.php

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by rsementi

https://alexepstein.substack.com/p/1...utm_source=url

Plenty of evidence. We are not in trouble with the climate, we are in trouble with ideology.

Alex Epstein is purely ideological.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Skua

I have been going to the same coastal area, my entire life. Using my own observational data, I have noticed NO change in the sea level. The tides are no higher, now, than they where in 1979. In fact in many areas, the beaches are now 2x or more in width than they were in the 60's. Easily verifiable with satellite imaging going all the way back to the mid 70's. Does this mean there isn't a problem or is there? Dunno, but what I do know, is the loudest voices of this hysteria, are all buying houses on the coast, or in the case of B. Obama, literally on the beach.

I think you are in RI. Here is the trend.



Obama's home is on a pond which is 3 feet above sea level. His home is about 10 feet above the pond.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by rsementi

You are absolutely right...and it is so funny that you reminded me of the fact that Obama live on the beach..

Obama's home is on a pond which is 3 feet above sea level. His home is about 10 feet above the pond.

[rsementi]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Alex Epstein is purely ideological.

Alex Epstein "purely" upholds a great ideology,...and he backs it all up with facts.

The climate catastrophists uphold a bad ideology, and they withhold facts that don't fit into their ideology. This has been proven by a recently published book by Obama's climate scientist, Steve Koonin, called "Unsettled"

https://smile.amazon.com/Unsettled-C...s%2C992&sr=8-1




The climate alarmist's ideology is evil because they hate mankind, they hate that we use the environment for our survival and pleasure. They think mankind is a cancer that needs to be extinguished. They hate free trade, free speech, capitalism etc. They are using this fake "crisis" to pass laws to restrict human activity wherever they can find it.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by rsementi

Alex Epstein "purely" upholds a great ideology,...and he backs it all up with facts.

The climate catastrophists uphold a bad ideology, and they withhold facts that don't fit into their ideology. This has been proven by a recently published book by Obama's climate scientist, Steve Koonin, called "Unsettled"

https://smile.amazon.com/Unsettled-C...s%2C992&sr=8-1




The climate alarmist's ideology is evil because they hate mankind, they hate that we use the environment for our survival and pleasure. They think mankind is a cancer that needs to be extinguished. They hate free trade, free speech, capitalism etc. They are using this fake "crisis" to pass laws to restrict human activity wherever they can find it.

Your CT is very strong.

[rsementi]

That home is walking distance to the beach on MV. MV as an island, has been naturally sinking for over 100 years. But if the fake predictions come true by 2050, then his home will be underwater. But he just spent over 11 million so I guess he really is not afraid of global cooling, oops, global warming, oops climate change, oops climate catastrophe, oops inconvenient reality...lol

[rsementi]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Alex Epstein is purely ideological.

Originally Posted by jackdale

Your CT is very strong.

CT???

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by rsementi

CT???

Conspiracy Theory

[Lake-Effect]

Any "scientific" rebuttal of AGW and CC that starts by calling most of science corrupt is a nonstarter.

Denying climate change because of one or two books they liked is better, I guess... but hardly convincing.