US coasts sea level rise 10 to 12 inches by 2050

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by markpierce

CO2 is great for plants! Plants provide us food and and animal plant-eaters providing us meat too.

CO2 fertilization is subject Liebig's Law of the Minimum.

Higher levels of CO2 result in increased predation by pests and compromised nutritional value in food crops.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0800568105

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-018-0253-3

Then is the impact on climate.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Dieseldude

Sorry, but the quote is only narrative without evidence. No historical observation, no scientific data. It is all opinion. It would not be admissible in a court of law.

Read the rest of the report.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

The MMGWC prediction is they would be underwater by 2018
So another failed mmgwc prophecy

Which climate scientists claimed that?

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Jack try again we have had this discussion and you lost it was global.

I just provide that data based on nearly 700 data sets world wide.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Dieseldude

This is a demand for data that is not given. Such a demand makes the demander appear as cocky and arrogant with a bone to pick. The graph appears to be more spiky from about the 18th century. This could be due to different measurement methods. Methods to determine temperature from the mid 18th century would be different than those that would be used for earlier times. Early temperatures would be obtained by historic proxy. Later temperatures would be by direct measure. But turning local measurements and historic calculations into global averages would have to be a highly imaginative process. The quality of such data is questionable. Apparent increases can be due to "heat island" effect that appeared with industrial development.


Even taking the data at face value shows that temperature did vary before large scale use of hydrocarbon fuels. So the graph confirms natural climate variation, and does little in favor of the theory of anthropomorphic warming.

The nearly 700 data sets used:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-020-0445-3


UHI has been discounted by BEST
https://www.scitechnol.com/2327-4581...4581-1-104.pdf

[Bycrick]

3623 U.S. Economists
4 Former Chairs of the Federal Reserve
28 Nobel Laureate Economists
15 Former Chairs of the Council of Economic Advisers

support a carbon tax.

So what? You continually confuse quantity with quality. Lots of people think [fill in your favorite nonsense] so it must be right. On the other hand, when 75 million people vote for Trump, that’s derided as ignorance. Apparently quantity only counts if you agree with them.

Why did the Democrats in Washington soundly defeat a proposed carbon tax when it was put to them?

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Bycrick

3623 U.S. Economists
4 Former Chairs of the Federal Reserve
28 Nobel Laureate Economists
15 Former Chairs of the Council of Economic Advisers

support a carbon tax.

So what? You continually confuse quantity with quality. Lots of people think [fill in your favorite nonsense] so it must be right. On the other hand, when 75 million people vote for Trump, that’s derided as ignorance. Apparently quantity only counts if you agree with them.

Oh, that's too funny. You apparently don't know which is quality and which is quantity.

Why did the Democrats in Washington soundly defeat a proposed carbon tax when it was put to them?

Industry capture of an unworkably bipolar political system.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Dieseldude

What's with this word, "denialism"?

The history of denial.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by jackdale

That is rather binary thinking.

3623 U.S. Economists
4 Former Chairs of the Federal Reserve
28 Nobel Laureate Economists
15 Former Chairs of the Council of Economic Advisers

support a carbon tax.

https://clcouncil.org/economists-statement/

Just another way politicians use to line their pockets .

Don't give me that pass through bs it doesn't pass through .

how did that work out in British Columbia?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Which climate scientists claimed that?

Well that specificly was Dr Hussain Shishab.

Based I'm sure on the predictions of Hansen

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Dieseldude

What's with this word, "denialism"? It seems that the climate cultists think that they some how discredit their critics labeling them with this word.



.

Simple it's a politically charged word in using it they are attempting to connect us skeptics to the people that deny the facts of the holocaust.

Nothing more than optics .

[Bycrick]

"Industry capture of an unworkably bipolar political system."

Of course. I should have known. If you don’t get the results you want, it must be that the voters are stupid, or bought, or that the system is corrupt.

[S/V Illusion]

Originally Posted by Dieseldude

Sorry, but the quote is only narrative without evidence. No historical observation, no scientific data. It is all opinion. It would not be admissible in a court of law.

While this obviously isn't a court, it is full of feigned 'expert' liberal arts majors debating climate science.


Useless nonsense but entertaining and informative in demonstrating their:

1, ability to cherry-pick internet links.
2. poor judgment and

3. childish behavior when anyone challenges their perception. Some even get defensive and attack.


There is no consensus among climate scientists quantifying anthropogenic climate change. It follows that there is therefore no cause for action.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Industry capture of an unworkably bipolar political system.

Wrong we here conservative and liberal saw what happened in Canada with the pass thru bit and said nope not giving the politicians any more of our hard earned money .

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Well that specificly was Dr Hussain Shishab.

Not a climate scientist.

https://www.un.org/press/en/1998/19980909.bio3177.html