Want To Buy: Bavaria C45 or C50

[tkalfaoglu]

Looking for a newish C45 or C50 in good condition..
Thanks..

[Doylelarson]

Are you only interested in Bavaria? I have a 2019 Beneteau Oceanis 45 for sale out of Dana Point, CA. Beautifully outfitted for cruising but was not able to take her as planned. We have an add noted in the recent classifieds in this forum if you want to take a look? She is immaculate and very well appointed, and only about local 30 hours

[Malcom]

Don't buy a C45 or C50, they are floating bricks, with zero performance, i have sailed booth when they still have a serius distributor[/URL], but the new Austrian management destory the US distribution in 2019.

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by Malcom

Don't buy a C45 or C50, they are floating bricks, with zero performance, i have sailed booth when they still have a serius distributor[/URL], but the new Austrian management destory the US distribution in 2019.

You seem to be spending quite a bit of time telling others what they should and should not buy. How about posting some pictures of your yacht and adding some details to your profile, other wise it does look a bit spammy with links to businesses.

Pete

[Malcom]

Originally Posted by Pete7

You seem to be spending quite a bit of time telling others what they should and should not buy. How about posting some pictures of your yacht and adding some details to your profile, other wise it does look a bit spammy with links to businesses.

Pete

I did not know that you can post pictures of a boat, i will choose one of my boats. I buy new boats every year, I like boats. I happen to have deep knowledge of Bavaria boats, yo c an call it spamming, i called "sharing my experience so others have an educated opinion"
Regarding link ti business , not sure what you mean on this thread, but i will recommend who do a good job, and vice versa.

[Malcom]

Now you got me engage, Lets go...
1.- The Bavaria C45 and C50 feature and oversized and extremely noisy engine fan that will make you crazy when running the engine.
2.-The exterior woods are extremely cheap, the steps down the swin ladder broke constantly
3.-The bilge pumps are basically trash, the fail with the smallest dirt, and stop working.
4.-All the halyards are too short.
5.-Cabinets alignment start failing after a few sails.
6.-The interior space and kitchen space is huge, good point, but you paid that on the performance.
7.- On close haul with 8 knots of wind, you barely moving at 3 knots, even with an empty boat. The boat start moving with winds in excess of 12 knots. IN low wind, you are dead in the water.
8.-The after sales is a disaster, Bavaria Germany denies all your claims.
9.- The Naviops interface can not be shutt off !, you need to kill the domestic battery bank in order to shut it off, killing also the bilge pumps.
10.- I crossed the gulf stream several times, cruise form ananpolis to Florida, the boat is very heavy in bluewater, at the level to be unsafe.
11.- The C57 is better, but the C45 and C50 can not be recommend under any circumstance.