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Old 06-03-2022, 02:33   #1
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Want to buy Catamaran - worldwide - 40+/- foot

Maybe we are lucky here....

Hope dies last....


We are looking to buy a 40 +/- foot catamaran.
Prefereably boats from year 2013 to 2022.

Timeframe: Ready for immediate purchase. However, if boat will be phased out in 1-1,5 years, that would be very OK for us as well... Or if Owner wants to complete season - fine for us as well!!!

Realisiticly and most prefered year 2015 to 2017 because of our budget. We do not like boats that are much older than that range, because of their interior layout. Mayor manufactureres had changed style in 2014/2015. So thats what we are looking for to create our own liveaboard...

Talking budget... Initial spending budget for the vessel itself (without any sidecosts) depends very much on the vessels conditions, options already on the boat and location...

Prefered catamarans are (but not exclusively):

- BALI 4.0 and 4.1
- Leopard 40/42
- Lagoon 40/42
- FP Lucia 40
- Nautitech Open 40

We did charter almost all of them in the past couple of years, so we are quite sure about our preferences...

Prefered Locations:

1. SE Asia, best would be Thailand
2. Indian Ocean
3. West Pacific, Australia...
4. Europe
5. Caribean, Central/South/North America (least prefered)

The vessel will be sailed to Thailand, regardless of location it is now.

Vessels we are not interessted in:

- Galley down cats
- Lagoon 380
- Mahe 36


Prefered would be boats that are offered from the owner.

Please PM me!

Thanks

John
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Old 06-03-2022, 04:18   #2
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Re: Want to buy Catamaran - worldwide - 40+/- foot

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Maybe we are lucky here....

Hope dies last....


We are looking to buy a 40 +/- foot catamaran.
Prefereably boats from year 2013 to 2022.

Timeframe: Ready for immediate purchase. However, if boat will be phased out in 1-1,5 years, that would be very OK for us as well... Or if Owner wants to complete season - fine for us as well!!!

Realisiticly and most prefered year 2015 to 2017 because of our budget. We do not like boats that are much older than that range, because of their interior layout. Mayor manufactureres had changed style in 2014/2015. So thats what we are looking for to create our own liveaboard...

Talking budget... Initial spending budget for the vessel itself (without any sidecosts) depends very much on the vessels conditions, options already on the boat and location...

Prefered catamarans are (but not exclusively):

- BALI 4.0 and 4.1
- Leopard 40/42
- Lagoon 40/42
- FP Lucia 40
- Nautitech Open 40

We did charter almost all of them in the past couple of years, so we are quite sure about our preferences...

Prefered Locations:

1. SE Asia, best would be Thailand
2. Indian Ocean
3. West Pacific, Australia...
4. Europe
5. Caribean, Central/South/North America (least prefered)

The vessel will be sailed to Thailand, regardless of location it is now.

Vessels we are not interessted in:

- Galley down cats
- Lagoon 380
- Mahe 36


Prefered would be boats that are offered from the owner.

Please PM me!

Thanks

John
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Old 07-03-2022, 03:54   #3
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Re: Want to buy Catamaran - worldwide - 40+/- foot

Please use a Private Message to express your interest, if you own a boat for sale. Thank you!
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Old 10-03-2022, 18:27   #4
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Re: Want to buy Catamaran - worldwide - 40+/- foot

My boat, the S/V Mistral is registered in the USA with the USCG NVDC Output Packet - Official Number 1263459, is a 42 foot long sailing catamaran and 20 feet wide and currently draws under three feet of
water. It weighs about 4.5 tons according to the designer / builder, Nigel Roberts. It is constructed primarily of wood with fiberglass on the lower portions and two part epoxy paint on the upper portions. It was built here in the Philippines. It has four queen berths, each with a large screened hatch - with the two aft berths currently being used for storage - and like most catamarans it has lots of storage all over the boat. The hulls are tied together by three large box beams: the forward box beam is the water tank (about 500 liters); the center box beam is the diesel tank (about 500 liters); and, the aft box beam is the transom with four large hatches for storage - and under the removable floorboards is the tie rod for the rudders. The two bows do not communicate with the hulls and can be used for a large amount of storage although I currently have them filled with empty sealed plastic containers for floatation. The foredeck has four large hatches which cover storage for anchoring and sailing equipment - with the center having the bow roller, manual anchor winch, and large bollard. The raised portion of the foredeck contains the two forward berths. Closed off from the forward berths is a large spacious bridge-deck salon which contains spacious "U" shaped seating area and a fixed table - seating is on the water tank and two storage areas (on large cushions that can be used as beds). The ends of the "U" butt against two bars: starboard is storage and port is the refrigerator/small freezer. On the other side of the bars are two short stairwells that lead down into the hulls. On the other side of the stairwells is the diesel tank (raised so that if water comes over the transom it will stay in the large covered cockpit and not enter the salon) with a door leading to the cockpit. To starboard is the helm station with a large window so one can sit while steering and see out the forward windows, and there is a large hatch above the helm station so one can stand and look out directly - all large hatches have a polycarbonate insert so one can see out (up). Just forward of the helm station on the inside of the side deck is the start of the quarter inch stainless safety cable that runs in a “U” shape around the raised part of the foredeck and back down the other side deck. The main fuse panel is also located here inside the salon. On the port side there is an enclosed shower and toilet* (no holding tank). Aft of the diesel tank is the covered cockpit with seating and removable table/chairs. Aft of the transom which has a small central anchor roller and bollard, is a landing platform** which is currently supporting the tender on one side. There is a solar platform on top of the davits that currently house four 60 watt solar panels. The roof has two smaller hatches which provide airflow for the salon*** and has small side gutters**** that assist in the collection of rainwater, The mast is above the diesel tank box beam and is supported by it. The mast is 42 feet high and is supported by a forestay and a backstay - both with bridles; there are two shrouds on each side, one going to the top of the mast and the other set lower (no spreaders are used). The aft part of the roof on each side supports a 250 watt solar panel (two panels).*I had always intended to install a small C-Head composting toilet in each hull near the forward berths, but have never needed them – this will likely be required if one goes to a high end marina instead of anchoring or mooring.**I have considered extending the landing platform to the end of the swim steps to make a more solid support for the tender.***A third small hatch is needed for the cockpit shower: first to provide airflow; second to provide the ability to support a 20 liter black colored water container which is upside down so a valve and shower head can be mounted in the lid and hot (solar) showers taken. I made one that worked well but I had to hoist it above the foredeck with the halyard. ****The gutters are too small and need to be made much bigger to capture more of the heavy rainfall that currently runs off the side of the roof.

At the forward end of the starboard hull there is a hanging locker for clothes and then a space where the C-Head would likely fit. A short stairwell leads up to the owners berth flanked by storage on both sides; then more storage and a work bench with a vise and storage for tools and repair stuff; then the stairwell leading up to the salon; with more storage on the other side of the stairwell, storage or the small 2hp two stroke outboard, a pair of new Lewmar 40 self-tailing winches (to replace the old Lewmar 30 winches), and a 220 VAC outlet fed by a 2000 watt inverter. Going up is the aft berth with the stairs currently stored there; under the berth is the battery bank - currently with only two 100 ah sealed batteries, but could contain at least four and possibly six along with the solar controller and the big inverter. There is also a 12 VDC trickle charger and a backup if shore power is available. On the side deck starting at the bow there is a sturdy stainless “U” bolt with chain plate backed up by a bollard and flanked by a stainless chafing guard on the inside. The bow section has stainless railing on both sides and on the outside it continues down to the swim steps; and on the deck level there is an embedded stainless ring, a centered larger bollard, an aft bollard, and there was a stainless handhold. The VHF antenna is near the stern.

At the forward end of the port hull there is a hanging locker for clothes and then a space where the C-Head would likely fit. There is a circuit breaker for the shore power extension cord. A short stairwell leads up to the guest berth flanked by storage on both sides; then more storage and the outlet for the water tank and a pump for the cockpit shower; and then a sink, counter, and two burner stove and storage for food and kitchen stuff; then the stairwell leading up to the salon; with more storage on the other side of the stairwell and the outlet for the diesel tank. Going up (the stairs are in place) is the aft port berth now used mostly for storage, and under the berth is a relatively new (less than 800 hours) Beta 38 marine engine and transmission with a maintenance free starter battery that can be added to the battery bank or not via a switch (which can be replaced with a seventh 100 ah maintenance free solar battery for a combined 700 ah power reserve). Currently the only through hull valve is located there for the inlet for cooling water">engine cooling water. The propane tank is mounted on the rear of the transom. On the side deck starting at the bow there is a sturdy stainless “U” bolt with chain plate backed up by a bollard and flanked by a stainless chafing guard on the inside. The bow section has stainless railing on both sides and on the outside it continues down to the swim steps; and on the deck level there is an embedded stainless ring, a centered larger bollard, an aft bollard, and there was a stainless handhold. Both hulls terminate in a swim step with a swim ladder attachment.

There are four anchors: a large and small Bruegel, a stainless Danforth, and, a stainless fisherman - all were originally set up to have twelve meters of chain and then rope - with a light and a heavy nylon bridle available. I also have an all chain option with around 150 feet of 5/16 inch high strength chain which fits the bow winch better. There are two sails: the big 100% jib and the storm jib - both of which hank on to the forestay. There is no mainsail although one could be added by running a cable from the top of the mast to the bottom and hanking on a loose foot main. Not being an experienced sailor (I have only a compass, charts, and depth sounder for navigation as I am a coastal sailor and have never been out of the sight of land – one island ahead and one behind), I could only get the boat to reach, close reach, or broad reach - it doesn't like to sail dead downwind because there is nothing to keep the jib stay down. I purchased a bunch of stainless bar stock to fabricate a bow protector with tie down points to eliminate this problem but stopped sailing before it was made and installed. Another possible solution was to buy a surplus Chicom parachute with all the lines still attached and just connect one side to the foredeck bollard and hoist the other side with the halyard - sort of an inexpensive and simple spinnaker,

There is also an AirLine hooka (surface supplied air to a depth of 60 feet for two) and some dive equipment on the boat. There are also three VHF radios, two handheld and one fixed near the helm station that has GPS and an AIS receiver. There is also a Hummingbird depth sounder built into the starboard hull near the bow. There is a large stainless gas grill (Magna?) in aft storage and a small backup gas grill for use when the main propane tank is out. There are also two swim ladders and a small fire and waterproof safe.

I am currently living on the boat with my wife and our fur baby, and it has been a houseboat for several years now - ever since I got my pacemaker - tied to the pier with shore power and freshwater at Zeke's Marina in Danao, Cebu. The boat has survived four major typhoons now, Sendong and Yolanda (Haiyan) in Tombobo Bay; Ruby and Odette (Rai) here in Danao/Carmen with the last one giving my wife some lasting trauma which has increased her desire to move to the USA. Skilled labor is available here at about $20 USD per day, but you may need to do your own design and supervision of the workers for anything unusual. Getting the hulls cleaned and repainted with anti-fouling is a common task here and this work is done on the other side of the pier I am tied to so the boat can be moved with ropes only. I would like to get $150,000 for it so I can buy a small house and car when I return to the US. I am willing to negotiate. Stay safe. Have a good day.
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Old 26-03-2022, 23:31   #5
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Re: Want to buy Catamaran - worldwide - 40+/- foot

Hi John
I have just sent you some information about a Lagoon 40 Catamaran as a PM
can you please let me know if you have received it.
Interesting that you want to sail to Thailand.. We have a home there - and have spent many happy times sailing in Thai and other waters of Asia.
Hope you will get back to me soon - Thanks.
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Old 29-03-2022, 06:41   #6
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Re: Want to buy Catamaran - worldwide - 40+/- foot

Hey!

Yes, i have recieved your Message. Thank you very much and i have to say that the Lagoon 40 is a great liveaboard vessel. We chartered "PAPI" a 2019 Lagoon 40 in Phuket last year. I love the new interior styling and that vessel was just great!

In the last couple of days i got more serious in dealing/talking with different Owners and brokers. And i am very happy that we were finally able to settle a great deal on a Leopard 40. Signed contract, received countersigned contract and transfered the deposit requested...

I will get into more detail about our purchase on another thread, once we have time... Lots to consider and planning to do now!

Best wishes on your sale!

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Old 29-03-2022, 06:47   #7
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Re: Want to buy Catamaran - worldwide - 40+/- foot

Congratulations on your boat, I'm so jealous!
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