For all promoting flare guns for self defense

[Franziska]

Interesting video. Thanks.

Simplest solution, an unexpected hand full of ultra hot chilli powder in the face. Much more effective at close range.
Works also well with the powder guns used in India for celebrating Holi :-)

Watch out to be upwind in any case :-)

Store it in the kitchen and only put a cup full of it close to the entrance when in dodgy areas.

And don't we all love a super hot chili con carne on a regular base? That's why we have it onboard anyway...

[redneckrob]

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

You are wrong, this is what the previous video showed. All that happens is the flare, which doesn’t burn yet, bounces off his face onto your boat, then ignites and put your boat on fire while the boarder kills you

9mm works much better.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone serious advocating that a 9mm doesn't work much better than a flare gun for incapacitating a bad guy. Since you can't legally carry that 9mm in lots of places, the flare gun debate isn't "flare gun vs 9mm" it's "flare gun vs whatever other improvised self defense you can legally possess wherever you are". Don't detract from an otherwise great video with a strawman.

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

He was lucky that his boat didn’t burn and that he wasn’t stabbed. Don’t use a flare gun to shoot someone.

Better still, don't buy one in the first place. Thankfully I live in a part of the world were you can't buy flare guns, legally.

Pete

[Nicholson58]

Concern for the Orion injuring the user prompted us to get a surplus Polish army flare launcher. Words are important, these are not guns. The surplus items are all metal, well made, robust, 26.5 mm. They will launch big flares and the aluminum tubed army flares. A bore reducer fitted for 12 ga X 2-1/2 short shells launches the Orion 12 ga flares. Other available bore reducers are available that can chamber 22, 410, 45 but this would make it a hand gun. Many YouTube videos on this. I prefer to sail where midnight visitors are not a problem.

[Group9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OKP_ip1lzw

So what some of you are saying, is that you don't believe this really happened?

[BillKny]

Originally Posted by Group9

So what some of you are saying, is that you don't believe this really happened?

Captain Ron is a documentary. I know it is true.

[DocBrauer]

The flare gun you want is a metal military flaregun. Not easy to find. Not the orange plastic toy. You also need a flare gun insert which you can find here. Mississippiautoarms.com/45-lc-410-shotgun-sub-caliber-device-flare-gun-insert

It came in handy during a boarding attempt by abu sayaff in Philippines. Not a story I’d tell here.

[CaptTom]

This thread starts out talking about guns and somehow meanders over to Capt. Ron.

It doesn't get any better than that, does it?

Anyway, my only comments on the OP's otherwise great video are (1) the deterrent effect of holding what looks like a weapon must be worth something, and (2) a little more discussion about the use of this thing in close quarters like on a boat, not on a range, might have been in order.

[cal40john]

Well if you're going to be posting movie references, this is what made everyone believe flares are weapons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR_fpfwjuMQ

[denverd0n]

Originally Posted by JoeRobertJr

It is much better to use a can of wasp spray.

Don't say that! Not even in jest!


WAAAAY too many people will stupidly believe it, and then repeat it. WAAAAY too many people ALREADY stupidly believe it!

[Talk Story]

I cannot wait to see where this thread goes. I always wondered about these in a flare gun, but would they fit, work?

12 Gauge Exotic Ammo
12 Gauge Less Lethal Ammo

[s/v Jedi]

Originally Posted by redneckrob

I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone serious advocating that a 9mm doesn't work much better than a flare gun for incapacitating a bad guy. Since you can't legally carry that 9mm in lots of places, the flare gun debate isn't "flare gun vs 9mm" it's "flare gun vs whatever other improvised self defense you can legally possess wherever you are". Don't detract from an otherwise great video with a strawman.

That comment was a reply to someone else who claimed that fired at the face it would be effective. My reference to a 9mm is that if you want something to protect yourself, then a 9mm works where a flare gun does not. Some even propose adapters for pistol or shotgun ammo for use in flare guns. They should put that effort into certifying for the 9mm instead.

On being allowed or not: I only know of Mexico where it isn’t allowed. I come from one of the most strict countries on guns (the Netherlands) and still was allowed to own guns (background checks, permits, yearly reviews sure, but allowed)

[SV_Galateia]

What's the legality of carrying something like this, say in the Caribbean or Panama area?

[Nicholson58]

Originally Posted by SV_Galateia

What's the legality of carrying something like this, say in the Caribbean or Panama area?Attachment 241111

We have two

Link? Where do I get one?

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by CaptTom

This thread starts out talking about guns and somehow meanders over to Capt. Ron.

It doesn't get any better than that, does it?

You haven't seen the marbles thread then? A group of highly experienced cruisers with tens of thousands of miles under their belts come together using the power of the internet on a cruising forum to discuss...... marbles


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