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Old 14-06-2024, 10:33   #46
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The “Vasa” [1628]

However, it was clear that the reason the ship sank was from a fatal flaw in its design. It was so badly constructed that even a light breeze would have knocked it over.

Poorly designed rather than "badly constructed".


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The "White Ship" [1120]

After 900 years, there is hope the shipwreck may have been found, near Barfleur.

Harfleur surely?


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SS "Thistlegorn", 1941

Thistelgorm

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The Marie Celeste, 1872

The Marie Celeste remains one of the world’s greatest unsolved mysteries.
More ➥ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...ste-174488104/
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Mary Celeste (/səˈlɛst/; often erroneously referred to as Marie Celeste[1]) was a Canadian built, American-registered merchant brigantine that was discovered adrift and deserted in the Atlantic Ocean off the Azorean islands on December 4, 1872.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste

And at this point I lost interest.
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Re: Shipwreck discoveries

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The "White Ship" [1120]
After 900 years, there is hope the shipwreck may have been found, near Barfleur.

Harfleur surely?

No, I believe Barfleur, is correct, as originally posted.
According to several sources*, the White Ship sank, in November 1120, after hitting Quillebœuf Rock, near Barfleur Harbour [east of Cherbourg], Normany.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Ship
https://aspectsofhistory.com/the-white-ship-2/
https://www.tttpodcast.com/season-3/...s-spencer-1120
https://blogs.bl.uk/digitisedmanuscr...hite-ship.html
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Old 16-06-2024, 04:14   #48
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330 Feet Below: The Incredible Discovery Of The Lost WW2 Submarines ~ Dive Detectives
Video [47.22] ➥ https://youtu.be/I2IvKxt8n8M

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In the summer of 1944, at the height of World War Two, a treacherous stretch of water in the Philippines claimed the lives of more than 150 American sailors, lost when the U.S.S. Flier and the U.S.S. Robalo sank. Neither sub has been found, and the exact cause of their sinking is unclear. Can the Dive Detectives unlock the mysteries? Their search leads the Dive Detectives into dangerous waters—the territory of sharks and ruthless pirates. But the Team is protected by armed Coast Guard officers and assisted by dramatic clues. The deathbed revelations of a retired member of the U.S. Navy help launch the search for the Robalo. The Team is intrigued by leads that include a mysterious sketch appearing to pinpoint that sub’s location...”
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The “Lisbon Maru":

Fang Li, an expert in geophysical exploration and marine technology, discovered the sunken Japanese transport ship, “Lisbon Maru", near Dongji Island, in 2017.
This find led to the retrieval of 828 British POWs' remains, buried at sea since 1942.

In October 1942, Lisbon Maru transported more than 1,800 British prisoners of war, from Hong Kong toward Japan, without bearing a sign indicating it was carrying POWs - a violation of the Geneva Convention.

After being struck by a torpedo, from a US submarine [USS “Grouper”], Japanese soldiers, instead of trying to save the POWs, cruelly battened them down below deck, left them to drown, and even shot at them, leading to the deaths of 828 prisoners.

When the ship went down off the coast of East China's Zhejiang [Sing pan] Province, 384 POWs were fortunately rescued, by local Chinese fishermen, who pulled them from the water, at risk of their own lives.

“The Lisbon Maru” ➥ https://www.cofepow.org.uk/armed-for...he-lisbon-maru

Fang Li’s documentary, "The Sinking of The Lisbon Maru"*, meticulously reconstructs the events of that fateful day, revealing how local Chinese fishermen bravely rescued 384 POWs from the sinking vessel, amidst perilous wartime conditions.

* More About the documentary
"The Sinking of The Lisbon Maru"
https://youtu.be/AqfVDaVTlUw
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/5891429
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I thought you scientific types were all about accuracy and data etc. Gord?
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I thought you scientific types were all about accuracy and data etc. Gord?
I am not ALL about anything; but I do feel that accuracy [and data] is very important.
Have I been inaccurate?
I'm very willing [but unhappy to have to] admit to errors, when I'm wrong.
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I am not ALL about anything; but I do feel that accuracy [and data] is very important.
Have I been inaccurate?
I'm very willing [but unhappy to have to] admit to errors, when I'm wrong.

Not sure if you personally or the sources you quote, but probably the latter. I didn't review all these shipwreck posts, but all those I did, and only from memory, seem to have errors of fact. A reminder of the limited value of most of what is written in so-called journalism today?
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GordMay I love this thread. Thank you for the time you take to create!
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Re: Shipwreck discoveries

The 16Th Century Basque Whaleship “San Juan” :

In December 1565, the Basque whaling ship [galleon or carrack?], “San Juan”, was anchored in the harbour at Red Bay [AKA: Gran Baya], Labrador, its hold filled with 1,000 barrels of whale oil after a full season of hunting, ready to head back to Europe.

But, it broke loose in a storm, sank, and was undisturbed for hundreds of years, until it was re-discovered, in the late 1970s [1978?], when Selma Barkham's [Parks Canada] research led her to the town of Red Bay, on Labrador's south coast.
There at the bottom of the harbour, she found, what is believed to be, the wreck of the “San Juan”.

It's taken more than a decade, for boat builders, in Pasaia, Spain, to get the [replica] “San Juan” ready to go into the water, in 2025, and sail back to Labrador.

More [Video] https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6445285

See also:

“The Replica of the XVI Century Basque whaling ship San Juan” ➥ https://yachtingtimesmagazine.com/20...ship-san-juan/

“San Juan Whaleship” ~ ALBOA https://albaola.org/en/#

“The Basque Vessels of Red Bay” ➥
https://parks.canada.ca/lhn-nhs/nl/r...unesco/unesco5

“Red Bay Basque Whaling Station, Labrador” ➥ https://parks.canada.ca/lhn-nhs/nl/r...unesco/unesco3
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