Delmarva Circumnavigation

[Sailor Sailor]

In paragraph 2, it should read "...sea breeze...", not ",,,shore breeze..."

[thinwater]

Really, neither land nor sea breeze, since the land is 10-15 miles to the east. The shoreline consists of skinny barrier island, and the locals will tell you that the updraft clouds build over land, no the barrier islands. Thus, the good breeze is out a little.





There are good stops, including Chincoteague, but not in on-shore conditions and they do require some coastal piloting. At the town dock either use the bulkhead (with fender boards) or anchor out--the tide is vicious across the slips. Even OC can break (I had a nice surf in at 15 knots once--several hundred yards, right between the jetties). Skipping them, however, cheapens the whole experience.


(Logger head sea turtle shell on Cobb Island.)



There is also the inside passage, for shoal draft boats. I think the Wire Passage may be blocked now, but it's otherwise quite doable for draft less than 4 feet. But it requires piloting, not just following GPS.


(Near Watchapreague Island)

[marcjsmith]

Originally Posted by Sailor Sailor

Several reasons:

Thanks Duly noted and printed out for future reference

[Dr. D]

Moderators: Can this thread be moved to General Sailing? I think that would be more appropriate.

[thejerbear]

Because I figure there is no harm in shooting your shot...if anyone looking to do the Delmarva Circumnavigation, it's been a personal goal of my for a while (but sadly, I am boatless), and I would love to join/contribute to a boat doing it at the end of June/beginning of July!

[Sparx]

I too am considering the Delmarva loop in 2024. Maybe late spring maybe early fall.

I will choose a direction based on the wind, but counter clockwise is most likely for the reasons stated.

Off the cuff we might stage at Cape Charles or Gloucester Point, Virginia. There are also plenty of good anchorages in Mobjack Bay. Departing from here on the falling tide will be a nice ride out into the ocean. Leaving predawn from Mobjack is easy if that aligns with the tide.

Then under the bridge and into the ocean. Once clear of Nautilus Shoal I will decide staying close to shore or trailing fishing gear in deeper water.

For planning purposes I will plan on a non-stop run in the ocean. If the wind holds up we will be at Delaware bay easily with in 24 hours of leaving the Chesapeak, . However Thinwater’s photo of Chincoteague brought back good memories. We have tied in exactly the same location on the sea wall. Fourth of July was a great experience there. Stopping there could work into our plan.

Once we make Delaware Bay we will likely anchor at Lewes Delaware for a day or two. Note the tides when transiting from the ocean into Delaware Bay, which will make themselves known. Anchoring in the shelter of Cape Henlopen is straight forward and can be done in the dark.

Then on the rising tide of our choosing we will ride the current up Delaware Bay, through the C&D Canal and into the Chesapeake all in one go. This leg can be done in daylight or the dark. The way is well marked. The canal at night is a sight to behold.

Of course stopping places in the Chesapeake are numerous. We will likely harbour hop down the bay., taking maybe a week to return our home in the southern Bay.

[White Rabbit]

You should join the Salty Dawgs sailing association. It doesn't cost much. Every year they host a flotilla that sails around Delmarva. They provide briefings up front online and they are advised by Chris Parker, noted weather forecaster and sailing router, for the cruise.

[h90943]

Sailor Sailor has some great comments that I would like to enhance with my experience.

I have completed three DelMarVa's, in both directions and as stated, the counterclockwise is preferable because of the strong currents on the Delaware Bay/River. I have always exited or entered the bay under the trestle bridge on the north end. Last year we encountered some severe waves a few miles after the bridge. This may have been avoidable if I had timed this with the currents and wind. On that trip, we stopped in Chincoteague because we had local area knowledge onboard and access to a dock. I would not have gone in there otherwise, because the sand bars are constantly shifting.

I have stopped in Cape Charles on each trip. It is a wonderful, very accommodating and top notch marina. From there we went directly or returned from Cape May. In Cape May, we stopped the the South Jersey Marina. It is a real nice place, but be aware of the currents there while docking. Plan for at least one overnight sail. Cape May to Cape Charles is about 30 hours. In my opinion, stopping in Ocean City or Chincoteague is not worth it, unless it is a destination. It takes too long to navigate your way in the channel, and deep water docking space is limited for sailboats.

The Delaware is very shallow except for the channel. Be prepared to communicate with the ships as it is a very busy commercial shipping lane. Two years ago, we navigated the Delaware in heavy fog, while motorsailing at 7-8 kts. Even with full AIS and radar, we called each ship to get the captains instructions. They all wanted us just outside of the channel. It is stressful to know that there is a large freighter, that you cannot see, going 18 kts, just 1/4 mile away.

On the C&D, there are three option for overnighting; Delaware City, Summit North and Chesapeake City. Currents there can also be a factor. Check the depths of the entrances for those marinas. A draft over 6' may require a higher tide.

AIS is highly recommended. An emergency life raft and an Elridge Tide and Pilot Book onboard and current hard copy charts are critical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItKXiXCSqKs&t=10s

[h90943]

That's a cruise that I would like to be on.

[gs41escapade]

I did the DelMarVa several years ago with my father and high-school aged at the time son. Near Gale and torrential rain on the offshore leg -- We had a truly wonderful trip! My thought was I have one crew with all the experience, but not so much of the ability anymore, and the other is just the opposite!

The boat wasn't really "ready" (is it ever?) but Dad was getting older, and Son would soon be gone to college. Damn the torpedoes and go. I'm so glad we did.

The only advice I can give is to skip Reedville as a stop - unless you have NO sense of smell. Beautiful town, but the Menhaden processing plant there is indescribable.

[wpatch]

We are gearing up for either a late 24 or 25 DelMarVa run.

Love the idea of a Rally style event. Looks like Salty Dogs or ARC last ran in 2017. Going with a few other boats would be a lot of fun. Anyone see something organized in your searches?

[Sparx]

I just completed the Delmarva Circumnavigation. Here are a few highlights.

Being spit out into the ocean while passing under the Chesapeake Bay Bridge at Fisherman’s Island. The plan was to catch the ebb tide here, which was successfully accomplished. The tide was raging at about twice the two knot speed predicted by tide tables.

The Atlantic Ocean. I love being on the ocean. Perfect weather. Perfect sailing. The rise and fall of the boat as it makes it way over the swell.

A 100 mile spinnaker run on the ocean. This is a very satisfying way to make miles.

A stop at Schaefer’s Canal House on the C&D canal. We talk about stopping here every time we come through, but rarely do. We had a great lunch and it was a nice couple of hours off the boat.

Many refreshing swims in the nearly fresh water of the northern Chesapeake.

Stopping to see the magnificent Lilly pad fields in full bloom on the Sassafras’s River.

Visiting or passing by many familiar places along the entire length of the Chesapeake. Revisiting a treasure chest of memories accumulated over years of sailing Chesapeake Bay.

Riding out a sustained 50 knot storm out on the Bay. This is not something I wish to repeat, but it was good to confirm the boat handling skills to make it through the wind and tall seas safely.

Sailing in the company of a good friend. We had days of great conversation and share the joy of sailing. I feel fortunate to have people in my life who gladly say yes to the invitation to accompany me on an adventure.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by thinwater

Really, neither land nor sea breeze, since the land is 10-15 miles to the east. The shoreline consists of skinny barrier island, and the locals will tell you that the updraft clouds build over land, no the barrier islands. Thus, the good breeze is out a little.





There are good stops, including Chincoteague, but not in on-shore conditions and they do require some coastal piloting. At the town dock either use the bulkhead (with fender boards) or anchor out--the tide is vicious across the slips. Even OC can break (I had a nice surf in at 15 knots once--several hundred yards, right between the jetties). Skipping them, however, cheapens the whole experience.


(Logger head sea turtle shell on Cobb Island.)



There is also the inside passage, for shoal draft boats. I think the Wire Passage may be blocked now, but it's otherwise quite doable for draft less than 4 feet. But it requires piloting, not just following GPS.


(Near Watchapreague Island)

There's no Wachapreague Island.

You must mean Parramore or Cedar Barrier Island which are at Wachapreague Inlet.

Wachapreague is on the mainland.

Some of the kids on my Little League Team were from there. One was a deck hand on his Dad's Wooden Charter Boat which he later took over as Captain.

Many times they fished Norfolk Canyon for Marlin.

Photos are of Wachapreague.

The road in front of the marina and Island House Restaurant floods these days with any heavy rain due to climate change.

https://images.search.yahoo.com/sear...g&action=click

https://www.theislandhouserestaurant.com/

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Sparx

I just completed the Delmarva Circumnavigation. Here are a few highlights.

Being spit out into the ocean while passing under the Chesapeake Bay Bridge at Fisherman’s Island. The plan was to catch the ebb tide here, which was successfully accomplished. The tide was raging at about twice the two knot speed predicted by tide tables.

The Atlantic Ocean. I love being on the ocean. Perfect weather. Perfect sailing. The rise and fall of the boat as it makes it way over the swell.

A 100 mile spinnaker run on the ocean. This is a very satisfying way to make miles.

A stop at Schaefer’s Canal House on the C&D canal. We talk about stopping here every time we come through, but rarely do. We had a great lunch and it was a nice couple of hours off the boat.

Many refreshing swims in the nearly fresh water of the northern Chesapeake.

Stopping to see the magnificent Lilly pad fields in full bloom on the Sassafras’s River.

Visiting or passing by many familiar places along the entire length of the Chesapeake. Revisiting a treasure chest of memories accumulated over years of sailing Chesapeake Bay.

Riding out a sustained 50 knot storm out on the Bay. This is not something I wish to repeat, but it was good to confirm the boat handling skills to make it through the wind and tall seas safely.

Sailing in the company of a good friend. We had days of great conversation and share the joy of sailing. I feel fortunate to have people in my life who gladly say yes to the invitation to accompany me on an adventure.

Those of us that live in this area go in and out all the time. Either over the tunnels are in under the high rise bridge section.

Sometimes the tide can sneak up on you though so have your anchor ready if you get caught with no wind and a bad engine where the bridge is low or ar it's normal height.

My 5 hp outboard has saved me from having my mast knocked of a couple times.

Old video (2015) is near the high rise section so no problem, but I could only manage a little over 2 knots against the current.

Soon as I got passed the fish trap I went in some to get in more shallow water and out of the strong current. I'm in 35' or so in the video. Latimer Shoal is to port.

Storm would come in around midnight though with heavy onshore winds so luckily I made Kiptopeke and go some protection from the cement ships.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6sHpweobRM

[thomm225]

Also, if you don't want to go into Cape Charles, Kiptopeke is a good spot to anchor behind the cement ships if the wind is right. (Not S or SE although if tucked up close to the ships that can work also).

Except in early June as there will be tons of crab pots there.

Kiptopeke is where the ferries used to dock on the Eastern Shore side before the bridge was built.

The anchorage is at Kiptopeke State Park so there are hiking trails, a bath room, and usually folks fishing off the Pier.

After sailing so far if doing the DelMarVa Circumnav, the trails can be a good place to get a little exercise.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ki...dw_k?entry=ttu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRZClPf5B28