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Old 29-10-2010, 04:49   #1
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Polish Training Ship in Trouble

The Frederick Mozart, a two masted square rigger operating as a training ship under the Polish flag, has been dis-masted 100 miles from the Sciliy isles in f6 conditions. There are 47 on board, including soem under 14's.
With rig etc over the side they are unable to maintain any way and have requested a tow via the Falmouth Coastguard. They've got an uncomfortable ride, and detriorating conditions but there are no injuries or plans to abondon ship at this time.

Also this week, SW of the Sciliy Isles, a factory ship caught fire with 111 on board. Most abandoned ship in the early hours and in poor weather and were eventually collected by a passing container ship. That is now in Falmouth Bay, the fire crews had to evacuate last night when the CO2 system tripped.

It seems to be standard practice to move rescue choppers to the islands in these circumstances.

A livley time for a voluntary organisation. Hope all goes well for those involved.
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That ship hasn't auxiliary power?
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I hope the Chopin makes port and is able to sail again. It would be sad if the world lost another Tall Ship.
47 people stranded on boat near Great Britain - CNN.com
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Thanks for the news flash!

Oddly, the Polish training ship "Pegoria" was dismasted on July 7, 2009; , whilst racing to St Petersburg.
In that incident, 37 members of the crew of 50 were winched off by Finnish Coastguard helicopters. The remaining 13 stayed on board, whilst the ship was towed into Hanko.
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I think its the "Fryderyk Chopin".
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I think it is Chopin too. Polish pride would not allow a treasured ship to be named after Mozart.
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Explain why could not find it under fm.Thanks for photo.Gord.Hope turns out ok.marc
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Quite right with the name. The pc wasn't in reach of the telly. And my memory, well I put it down somewhere.
With the foremast down for certain, and maybe both masts, there is so much rigging cordage in the water that turning the prop is likely to wrap a warp pretty quickly. There were reports of the engine having failed but you know how accurate the news hounds are.
It will need some intensive, and risky, work to get that mast cut away and everything either cut loose or stowed safely under worsening weather. Especially since some of the crew are too young to get involved in risky operations.
More news from the evening news programmes soon.
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I think it is Chopin too. Polish pride would not allow a treasured ship to be named after Mozart.
Chopin is not a Polish name either.
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I remember seeing the ship in (?) Mayreau. The sticks were impressively tall.

The other poster was also correct that not so long ago Pogoria lost her masts.

Looks like maintenance is not what it used to be on Polish tall ships.

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Chopin is not a Polish name either.
No but he was born in Poland albeit of a French father. Guess he should have changed the name to Chopinski
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Quite right with the name. The pc wasn't in reach of the telly. And my memory, well I put it down somewhere.
With the foremast down for certain, and maybe both masts, there is so much rigging cordage in the water that turning the prop is likely to wrap a warp pretty quickly. There were reports of the engine having failed but you know how accurate the news hounds are.
It will need some intensive, and risky, work to get that mast cut away and everything either cut loose or stowed safely under worsening weather. Especially since some of the crew are too young to get involved in risky operations.
More news from the evening news programmes soon.
Maybe this is why Canada requires an axe as part of the shipboard gear!
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Maybe this is why Canada requires an axe as part of the shipboard gear!
I think it was part of the requirements for the Vic-Maui race, now that you mention it That's too cool.

Me, I pack a half dozen variously sized and sharpened pocket knives, and require one be attached to the current shift crew's harness.
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No but he was born in Poland albeit of a French father. Guess he should have changed the name to Chopinski
Grandfather (Francois). Father was Mikolaj, Polish already.

Chopin migrated to Paris later when Poland disappeared from the map - split between Russia, Germany and Austria.

You are correct on the spelling - there is a localized version of Szopen, used by many Poles. Chopinski would in fact be a Polonized and acceptable as well.

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