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Old 26-02-2019, 13:25   #16
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Re: AIS CHECK BY AUTHORITIES IN INDONESIA

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OK, I can see it if you're staying in their jurisdiction a while.

Just passing through their waters, then really taking the piss IMO.

And just to clarify, nothing to do with work permit revenues, starting a foreign-owned charter biz there would not even be possible, from a practical POV

their intention is preventing foreigners from competing with Thai-owned operations, which are paying off or "partnering with" the proper authorities connected to military- or police- adjacent mafia/protection rackets.
AIS is not a requirement for passing through the waters of Indonesia. It is a requirement for foreign yachts clearing into Indonesia.
Don't like their rules, don't go.
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Old 26-02-2019, 13:40   #17
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My boat is presently in Indonesia and has been for 6 months
You do require an AIS if you are staying for any length of time Prior to coming you must register on line at the below address and part of this is supplying AIS brand and number.
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Old 26-02-2019, 13:52   #18
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Re: AIS CHECK BY AUTHORITIES IN INDONESIA

I would be most surprised if any/many Indonesian vessels in their own waters have AIS......where navigation lights seem optional...….or if there are, can be of any colour....many times we altered course as a cigarette lighter appeared off the bow....sometimes lit.....sometimes just the flash of the flint.....and unlit FAD's......moored in extremely deep water miles from land...… many,many fishing vessels are heavily built timber boats......or dugouts...….all going full pelt....even in full tropical downpours...….luck and lookout are required...….and daylight.
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Old 26-02-2019, 14:09   #19
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Re: AIS CHECK BY AUTHORITIES IN INDONESIA

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My boat is presently in Indonesia and has been for 6 months
You do require an AIS if you are staying for any length of time Prior to coming you must register on line at the below address and part of this is supplying AIS brand and number.
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Thanks to Bill and Phil for the updates.


Have you found passing thru Indonesia to be getting better in the last 5 years as was promised by their Minister of Tourism at the Singapore boat shows?
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I would be most surprised if any/many Indonesian vessels in their own waters have AIS......where navigation lights seem optional...….or if there are, can be of any colour....many times we altered course as a cigarette lighter appeared off the bow....sometimes lit.....sometimes just the flash of the flint.....and unlit FAD's......moored in extremely deep water miles from land...… many,many fishing vessels are heavily built timber boats......or dugouts...….all going full pelt....even in full tropical downpours...….luck and lookout are required...….and daylight.
Well the local small boats don't have AIS, but that really isn't related to the requirement that foreign vessels must have AIS to clear into the country.
Medium sized Indonesian fishing boats are also required to have AIS.
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Indonesian regulations require VMS on fishing vessels exceeding 30 Gross Tons (averaging about 16 meters or more) that are licensed to fish in their waters.
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Old 26-02-2019, 14:19   #21
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Re: AIS CHECK BY AUTHORITIES IN INDONESIA

FYI, a transceiver, AIS or otherwise, is one device that both TRANSmits and reCEIVES. The two functions are normally controlled by the operator's settings.

A transponder is a different animal. A transponder is a transceiver with added brains. When it gets a request for information, it sends a reply out automatically.

So as best I can tell, there are AIS receivers, and AIS transceivers, but no AIS transponders. The AIS transmitters/transceivers just shout out their information into the void, they don't answer if you call them, do they?
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INCORRECT REPLY. One of your responses claims that AIS relies upon cell networks. NOT TRUE!

In a country that requires AIS, and law enforcement/port authorities visually spot your vessel, and you are not transmitting an AIS signal, you may have a problem.

You will be in busy waters. Equip with a transmitting AIS.

FROM WIKI: AIS is intended, primarily, to allow ships to view marine traffic in their area and to be seen by that traffic. This requires a dedicated VHF AIS transceiver that allows local traffic to be viewed on an AIS enabled chartplotter or computer monitor while transmitting information about the ship itself to other AIS receivers. Port authorities or other shore-based facilities may be equipped with receivers only, so that they can view the local traffic without the need to transmit their own location. All AIS transceivers equipped traffic can be viewed this way very reliably but is limited to the VHF range, about 10–20 nautical miles.

In addition to VHF transmissions, most large ships send and recieve AIS signals up and down from a satellite enabling them worldwide AIS observations.
The OnCourse phone app, which is being discussed, relies solely on an internet connection.
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