Force 10 Oven Troubleshoot

[StillCruisin]

I have a Force 10 Oven - in boat at purchase and new in 2017.
Burners on top all work albeit elec start no longer working so use BBQ Lighter.
Issue is Oven lights however immediately goes out as soon as start knob release - regardless of how long held in. Applies to both grill burner at top and oven burner at bottom.
Longest hold was 20 mins to heat food!!!
Any ideas on how to rectify.
Thanks in advance
Tony C

[PA.]

If you are in Sydney your could call Steve on 0412 372 657. We used him tracking down our problem.

[StillCruisin]

Thanks for the assist. I am wading through the "manual" found online however it appears to be a more global problem than this lists. Might give Steve a call - even though I am located in Perth WA.

TC

[rotrax]

The safety cutout elements are perhaps defective.


Known as flame failure devices or thermocouples.

[StillCruisin]

Thanks. I am working through this area as it appears to be the issue.
TC

[GordMay]

Force 10 Thermocouple Ground Tech Note [re top burner, but?]
➥ http://www.force10.com/files/documen...ech%20Note.pdf

[StillCruisin]

Thanks. Very helpful.

[jkishel]

Remove the plastic knob and try to light the oven. If the burner does not remain lit when the valve stem is released, there is a problem with the thermocouple and/or wiring. If the burner does remain lit, the knob is hanging up on the plastic ring, clean the knob, ring and spring to recover free and full movement.

[StillCruisin]

Thanks. Will give that a try. Seems the least intrusive solution
TC

[boatman61]

Check the thermocouple is located close enough to the flame to heat up quickly enough to keep the cut off open.. if its still cutting out you need a new thermocouple.

[Mike OReilly]

I've found that sometimes the burner jets that target the thermocouple can get clogged or otherwise compromised. On our Force10 this has resulted in the thermocouple not being heated and closing the valve. When we clean out the burner it works again.

[chris mac]

Often the thermocouple tip can be lightly sanded to get it working again however I would suggest sourcing out a replacement. I was able to keep ours functioning (stove element on force 10) for about 6 months and then it was done.

[sv_pelagia]

Originally Posted by jkishel

Remove the plastic knob and try to light the oven. If the burner does not remain lit when the valve stem is released, there is a problem with the thermocouple and/or wiring. If the burner does remain lit, the knob is hanging up on the plastic ring, clean the knob, ring and spring to recover free and full movement.

We regularly (1/yr) have this problem with our Force 10. Quickly solved by removing plastic knob then replacing it, but not pushed on as far.

[wingssail]

On our Force 10 the thermocouples worked in the following way:

When sufficiently heated by a flame an electrical current was sent down the tube from the thermocouple flame sensor to an electromagnet at the knob assembly. The magnet holds the gas valve open. We found that the electrical current was not passing to the electromagnet due to a loose connection at the back of the knob. The connecting nut can be slightly tightened to ensue a good connection. Be careful not to smash the small button inside which makes the actual connection (this applies to thermocouple devices with a copper tube that carries the current to the knob, newer stoves have a wire with a ring connector instead of the little button inside).

You also could have a faulty electromagnet. These are easily replaceable.

Since your oven fault occurs with both the grill and the burner it implies that the problem is probably at the knob end of the system where one electromagnet controls both burners.

At least that is how mine works.

One other note: The flame sensor works when there is a sufficient temperature difference. When the stove top burners are on the whole stove heats up and that temperature difference may not be enough, so the oven burners go out.

We have not solved this last problem so we take the dangerous approach of holding the knob in with a knife pried behind the handle. (not recommended)

[Ded reckoner]

You mentioned the electric starter doesn't work. When was the last time you replaced the single AA battery for this? We replace ours annually. Swing the oven upwards and block it to hold it in place. Look at the bottom side of the oven and you'll see the battery holder and cap. Unscrew cap to get at the battery.