LFP Batteries and battery Boxes

[sailorboy1]

Does ABYC require that LFP batteries be in spill containment boxes?

[BlueH2Obound]

Originally Posted by sailorboy1

Does ABYC require that LFP batteries be in spill containment boxes?

Per ABYC E-13, ratified by ABYC in mid 2022, no containment or ventilation needed.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by BlueH2Obound

Per ABYC E-13, ratified by ABYC in mid 2022, no containment or ventilation needed. [unless the manufacturer requires it, per 13.5.2]

ABYC E-13 is now the industry standard for lithium ion batteries, on marine vessels.

That’s a category that encompasses quite a few chemistries, including lithium cobalt oxide (LiCoO2), lithium manganese oxide (LiMn2O4), lithium iron phosphate (LiFeP04), lithium nickel manganese cobalt oxide (LiNiMnCoO2), lithium nickel cobalt aluminum oxide (LiNiCoAlO2), and lithium titanate (Li4Ti5O12).
More:
ABYC Ratifies E-13, their first lithium battery standard
➥ https://panbo.com/abyc-ratifies-e-13...tery-standard/







ABYC E-13 [2022] Lithium-Ion Batteries
➥ https://abycinc.org/store/viewproduct.aspx?id=20580555

USCG Design Considerations for Use of Lithium-Ion Batteries aboard Small
Passenger Vessels [including Ventilation]
Pages 5 & 6 ➥ https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/M...0Batteries.pdf

The Latest On Lithium Batteries ~ BoatUS
➥ https://www.boatus.com/expert-advice...hium-batteries

[rgleason]

@GordMay Great post, excellent links thanks.

[rgleason]

I do not like the USCG requirement for a metal vent duct to the exterior. Would that apply to all boats with LFP?

[CaptainRivet]

Originally Posted by rgleason

I do not like the USCG requirement for a metal vent duct to the exterior. Would that apply to all boats with LFP?

What metal vent duct to exterior. And why?

[rgleason]

Originally Posted by CaptainRivet

What metal vent duct to exterior. And why?

Read Gord's Link


USCG Design Considerations for Use of Lithium-Ion Batteries aboard Small
Passenger Vessels [including Ventilation]
Pages 5 & 6 ➥ https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/M...0Batteries.pdf

[CaptainRivet]

Originally Posted by rgleason

Read Gord's Link


USCG Design Considerations for Use of Lithium-Ion Batteries aboard Small
Passenger Vessels [including Ventilation]
Pages 5 & 6 ➥ https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/M...0Batteries.pdf

Thank you, happy to learn.

Thanks god i am not under USGC
This is totally overregulated. This is getting totally out of any practical and sensefull installs pushed by media and insurances from burning EVs which are a totally different case. The only reason that is done and mainly influenced by insurances to denial claims afterwards and push responibilities and costs to installer. Every little possibility that could come up in 1/1Mio incidents is tried to be covered here with totally overregulated measures that majority can not pay...

Yes thats done with US mentality, "don't put your dog or cat in the microwave to dry it" or "attention hot liquid" on a cup where ypu ordered HOT chocolate, tea or coffee to cover up if anyone gets burned lips on hot coffee...yes hot chocolate is hot and tea+coffee is hot when you get it freshly brewed and if you burn your lips its your stupidity and it should hurt so you learn it for next time...but yes in US you can sew starf... or MC Doof for not having that on the cups.

Steel pipes for gases that then shoudn't root theough passenger spaces. How stupid is that and its standing nowwhere why...let me guess when the gasses are hot they not melt the pipe...when are gases hot, never in an Lifepo4.
Manufacturer say they don't need ventilation but UScG states it differently...this has nothing to do with saftey anymore, its regulation to avoid being responsible and or have to pay...
It would be much cheaper and better for all of us if Lithium in any form can only be purchsed by end customer if they pass an IQ Test that make sure that are not dumb as toast bread.

Look where lead batteries are installed by manufactures of boats all over the world, that gas and catch fire...where are similar regulations for them? Where are similar tight regulations for AGMs that just need a faulty alternator regulator (which is breakdown issue NO1 in alts) to turn the whole boat into a ln acid gas chamber and burn it down.

[sailorboy1]

Originally Posted by sailorboy1

Does ABYC require that LFP batteries be in spill containment boxes?

I think this thread went off the rails.

So ................ it seems like ABYC has kicked the can down the road. My manufacturer says pretty much nothing about installation. So ABYC saying following manufacturer installation instructions are meaningless. What about all the DIY installations that were put together. What good is a standard if it uses "may"? A standard is a standard or not, not "may".

BUT

In my case as the OP I believe my LFPs are in battery containment boxes. I have drop-in batteries that are in fact battery cells installed into a plastic box.