LFP Drop In --always another way to skin the cat

[rgleason]

LFP Drop In --always another way to skin the cat ?????

https://www.sunbeamsystem.com/smart-...-term-testing/


"SMART LITHIUM Plug & Play batteries are designed to work with existing equipment – in other words, the often mentioned need to replace existing alternators to work with the immense charging capabilities of Lithium batteries is now a thing from the past to be forgotten about."

"The reason for the SUNBEAMsystem batteries working so well with any alternators on any engine is that the SMART LITHIUM Plug & Play is made to simulate a lead-acid battery in relation to any connected charging equipment."


Sounds too good to be true. How would this be possible? They also accept paralleling different chemistries.

[rgleason]

https://www.sunbeamsystem.com/knowledge-db/



"I like the fact that I will be able to quick charge my new batteries but could my alternator overheat?

The answer is No! There circulate rumors about this on the internet. There even exists movies made by manufacturers making protective equipment for alternators. That aside your batteries cannot take the blame for any alternator breakdown. An alternator is prone to wear and tear and has a limited life span compared to other parts of your engine."

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by rgleason

https://www.sunbeamsystem.com/knowledge-db/



"I like the fact that I will be able to quick charge my new batteries but could my alternator overheat?

The answer is No! There circulate rumors about this on the internet. There even exists movies made by manufacturers making protective equipment for alternators. That aside your batteries cannot take the blame for any alternator breakdown. An alternator is prone to wear and tear and has a limited life span compared to other parts of your engine."

Tell that to the brand new large frame alt that died after several hours running full tits trying to charge a large AGM bank

[SaylorMade]

Originally Posted by rgleason

LFP Drop In --always another way to skin the cat ?????

https://www.sunbeamsystem.com/smart-...-term-testing/


"SMART LITHIUM Plug & Play batteries are designed to work with existing equipment – in other words, the often mentioned need to replace existing alternators to work with the immense charging capabilities of Lithium batteries is now a thing from the past to be forgotten about."

"The reason for the SUNBEAMsystem batteries working so well with any alternators on any engine is that the SMART LITHIUM Plug & Play is made to simulate a lead-acid battery in relation to any connected charging equipment."


Sounds too good to be true. How would this be possible? They also accept paralleling different chemistries.

I don't see why not, they must have added electronics in the box to limit current, and cut off charging slowly when full.

But at what cost? I don't see prices on their web-site and a Victron DC-DC charger is not expensive, so there is that.

[rgleason]

They do not offer many details about what, if anything, that they have for electronics or protection during alternator charging. I would like to know why they think it is acceptable and I wonder if they are compliant with ABYC. To simply assert something without explaining it properly is suspect.

[sailorboy1]

Originally Posted by rgleason

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"SMART LITHIUM Plug & Play batteries are designed to work with existing equipment – in other words, the often mentioned need to replace existing alternators to work with the immense charging capabilities of Lithium batteries is now a thing from the past to be forgotten about."

well this was already/always was true and I am sure that just reprogramming a regulator is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less cost than some new magic in a battery mystery

[flightlead404]

Originally Posted by rgleason

LFP Drop In --always another way to skin the cat ?????

https://www.sunbeamsystem.com/smart-...-term-testing/


"SMART LITHIUM Plug & Play batteries are designed to work with existing equipment – in other words, the often mentioned need to replace existing alternators to work with the immense charging capabilities of Lithium batteries is now a thing from the past to be forgotten about."

"The reason for the SUNBEAMsystem batteries working so well with any alternators on any engine is that the SMART LITHIUM Plug & Play is made to simulate a lead-acid battery in relation to any connected charging equipment."


Sounds too good to be true. How would this be possible? They also accept paralleling different chemistries.

If they emulate the behavior of an AGM or similar, aren't you going to loose one of the biggest benefits of LiFePO4, which is the very linear charging profile?

[lmxr]

Originally Posted by rgleason

[...]"The reason for the SUNBEAMsystem batteries working so well with any alternators on any engine is that the SMART LITHIUM Plug & Play is made to simulate a lead-acid battery in relation to any connected charging equipment."

Sounds too good to be true. How would this be possible? They also accept paralleling different chemistries.

Easy. On their website they state that the alternator must take care of itself. I.e. don't overheat, don't burn out, don't deliver a voltage peak etc.

In regards to simulating an LA battery, I assume that that also holds true for their batteries' lifetime?