LiFePO4 Batteries: Discussion Thread for Those Using Them as House Banks

[john61ct]

Originally Posted by nebster

Most of the other engineered-pack providers, including ones you have chosen to endorse in the past, will reveal the inner details of their supply chain, either. There are a bunch of reasons they choose to do that.

I think you mean "won't"?

Here's the list, it's a short one:

OceanPlanet (Lithionics), Victron, MasterVolt, Redarc (Oz specific?)

Give it a few years, tons of feedback across dozens of forums, might add Trojan in there.

[nebster]

Originally Posted by john61ct

I think you mean "won't"?

Oops, exactly! D'oh.

[john61ct]

Originally Posted by Q Xopa

whats your view on this gear?

Too new to say, cautiously hopefully it will prove itself over time, keeping an open mind.

[Q Xopa]

Originally Posted by john61ct

I've had extensive discussions with him in other forums where he came in spouting as an expert then when his ignorance was exposed

realized wasn't doing "his brand" much good

and left in a huff.

The need to maintain an image getting in the way of his own learning.

Anyway I'm sure there are things in there of value, I can't stand sitting through video full stop myself, give me a written summary or even a transcript and I'll extract the info in 1/10the time.

Different strokes. . .

Yes there are a lot spouting experts. Some of them even know some things. Im pretty sure, like me, none of them know eveything.
Hell, I dont even know what I dont know.

[Q Xopa]

Originally Posted by john61ct

Too new to say, cautiously hopefully it will prove itself over time, keeping an open mind.

Open mind, nice.
I mistakenly assumed you werent keen on them because they were being sold on Amazon and the you didnt trust the tester because he was trying to monetize his social media etc.

[john61ct]

We don't yet know whether they really are good or not.

Insufficient information, is completely different from knowing it's no good.

However Renogy is definitely working to capture the mass market, targeting price, affordability rather than top-notch quality.

In some product categories that can be compensated for by excellent customer service.

For myself specifically, user-custom setpoints are a must for use with LFP, but I realize others don't care.

In the expo forum someone stated requires IGN-on wiring, so may be designed for alt charging only.

Resistance to marine conditions is also an open question.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by john61ct

We don't yet know whether they really are good or not.

Insufficient information, is completely different from knowing it's no good.

However Renogy is definitely working to capture the mass market, targeting price, affordability rather than top-notch quality.

In some product categories that can be compensated for by excellent customer service.

For myself specifically, user-custom setpoints are a must for use with LFP, but I realize others don't care.

In the expo forum someone stated requires IGN-on wiring, so may be designed for alt charging only.

Resistance to marine conditions is also an open question.

ok john I'm tired of all this bs from you . I already posted I contacted renogy and yes these b2b units are marine rated. Perhaps you should actually go out and get some first hand experience wrt Lfp batteries and associated systems. ( read as buy a set and actually use it) before posting anymore wrt them on this thread.

READ THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD.
: LiFePO4 Batteries: Discussion Thread for Those Using Them as House Banks

Just regurgitating something someone else says on any forum is not personal use experience.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by john61ct

However Renogy is definitely working to capture the mass market, targeting price, affordability rather than top-notch quality.

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slandering a company just because you don't like their business model is not a good idea on an open forum.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by john61ct

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For myself specifically, user-custom setpoints are a must for use with LFP, but I realize others don't care.

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oh you forgot to say if I ever actually start using Lfp batteries .
Btw the unit does have user setable points it was posted a couple pages back .

[john61ct]

Yes confirmed, it does not autostart based on sensing high voltage, needs to be wired to IGN or maybe can rig a third-party relay or switch, obviously designed for alt input only.

But, if you put all sources including Alt onto House directly, could use this just to keep Starter batt topped up, that would work fine.

[john61ct]

"User-customized setpoints" means not just choosing from a set of canned profiles, but the ability to change from say 13.8 to 13.9, with Float also settable independently from Absorb.

The Renogy does **not** offer that, and we clarified that point earlier in this very thread.

[john61ct]

There's nothing negative about what I wrote, perfectly valid to position for one market segment as opposed to another.

Surest road to failure is trying to please everyone, focus is critical to profitability.

[john61ct]

No mention in writing of any IP rating.

Only warranty mentioned is the "statutory" minimum, great if you're in Australia, stateside not so much. But they do have a good reputation to uphold.

Again, none of these fact are deal breakers in and of themselves.

Rigorous long-term testing by a trusted member, or collecting more anecdotal reports over the years to come is required to really know.

Without user custom setpoints, still Sterling BB series for me, I think maybe Enerdrive is the only other.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by john61ct

"User-customized setpoints" means not just choosing from a set of canned profiles, but the ability to change from say 13.8 to 13.9, with Float also settable independently from Absorb.

The Renogy does **not** offer that, and we clarified that point earlier in this very thread.

I did notice that you specifically went with a float voltage that is above any manufacturer of b2b float setting to try to make a point .
I will also now make a specific point you should address
This thread is for those of us that are actually using Lfp house banks.
Please stop posting here until you have some actual personal experience with your own Lfp house bank.

There are several cheap small Lfp batteries out there acquire one and start testing .

[john61ct]

Again, you are confusing lack of positive information with a concrete indicator of fact.

Are you a mod?

And you already know my position is that LFP should not be floated at all, so for me that setpoint is irrelevant.