Canadian COVID-19 News

[Halifax Sailor]

Originally Posted by pcmm

Right now the "Delta" variant doesn't seem to be having the same impact on kids in Canada as in the U.S. Why is a good question, maybe it has to do with the general higher rate of vaccination among the public, maybe its the greater degree of isolation and reduced class sizes?

There are a lot of parents that want some return to in class learning as the last 2 years have been a write-off in terms of education for a lot. We've been lucky as both my kids are high school'ers and remote learning has been the best experience for them. They've never done better academically! In fact if their marks hold to what they've been doing for the last year, they'll likely both be eligible for FULL SCOLARSHIPS! Though they are definitely statistical anomalies!

I suspect, and I hope I am wrong, that lower delta issues in kids in Canada is because kids are not it school. In the USA most kids are in and delta is rising fast in that demographic. We will see by end of Sept, maybe before, what is going to happen with Canada. Ontario, B.C. and Quebec are on fire with delta, when kids go back in, who knows?? Although Ontario and B.C. have pushed back their reopening plans for now because of the surge. Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are experiencing a surge to the point NS just closed their provincial border to NB with restrictions, vac required or quarantine for at least 7 days. NB opened their borders to Canada about 3 weeks before NS (and some students are already in public schools), and their case numbers just blew up. Wait and see what happens in NS. I am so covid tired

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by desodave

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1. Our community treats them like community pets and does our best to tolerate them.



2. Your view is often determined by how much of your garden they're consuming.

1. Ours too, Cowichan Bay.


2. People too lazy to fence their gardens, no doubt.

[desodave]

So ... will it be covid vaccination next?


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...trol-1.6147200

[sv_pelagia]

Originally Posted by redhead

We always stop at a certain place in BC for coffee, put on our masks and went in. There wasn't a single person, even the employees, wearing a mask. We were conspicuous for wearing them. I don't know why.



With our Washington plates I thought we would get more looks, but we saw Montana, Michigan and Iowa plates on route 15. The lack of masks was astonishing - that's not a judgement, just an observation.

British Columbia has just re-instated its mandatory mask law (for indoors)

https://www.timescolonist.com/news/l...day-1.24353199

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by redhead

... We always stop at a certain place in BC for coffee, put on our masks and went in. There wasn't a single person, even the employees, wearing a mask. We were conspicuous for wearing them. I don't know why ...
... The lack of masks was astonishing - that's not a judgement, just an observation...

As of Wednesday, Aug. 25, 2021, masks must be worn in all indoor public spaces throughout B.C. to help slow the transmission of COVID-19 as B.C. prepares for the fall and respiratory illness season.

A new order from the provincial health officer will require people 12 and older to wear masks in indoor public settings, regardless of vaccination status.

For information on the latest provincial health officer’s orders and guidance, non-medical issues (such as travel recommendations) and how to manage social isolation, visit: www.gov.bc.ca/COVID-19

For more information and latest medical updates on COVID-19, visit the BC Centre for Disease Control’s website: BC Centre for Disease Control
Or follow on Twitter: @CDCofBC

➥ https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0053-001665

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by GordMay

As of Wednesday, Aug. 25, 2021, masks must be worn in all indoor public spaces throughout B.C. to help slow the transmission of COVID-19 as B.C. prepares for the fall and respiratory illness season.

I wonder when Alberta and Saskatchewan will follow suit. They are much worse than BC right now, and steeply trending in the wrong direction. Of course, they also have governments who are politically disinclined to take such actions -- until they are forced to.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...ast7&map=pt#a2

[Macblaze]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

...Alberta...they also have governments who are politically disinclined to take such actions

Kind. So kind.

I was never a fan of the mask mandates but the blind reactionaryism that prevents our current provincial government from being even remotely effective is breeding some serious issues.

I have a bunch of friends in post secondary (which was hit hard last year with cuts...really hard) and their 2021-22 policies are all over the map. One is toeing the gov't line (for fear, I assume, of being targeted for even more cuts) and is going face-to-face and wide open with very few restrictions, while making polite noises about hybrid options they don't intend to offer; while another in the same city is thumbing its nose to the province and is keeping as many programs as possible remote (even ones that make no sense to do remotely) with a promise to faculty that this will be the official policy for the whole school year.

Students, as you can imagine, are a bit confused, especially the ones from other provinces who are wondering if they should even come to AB to attend classes.

Agree or disagree, it just makes me wish we had a stronger federal health system to help prevent the train wreck that is coming through this kind of bizarre leadership. Makes me a bit of an outlier here in Alberta.

[Montanan]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...?ocid=msedgntp

Darn Delta Variant is much for virulent than previous variants.

Some 25% of SARS-CoV-2 infections among Los Angeles County residents occurred in fully vaccinated residents from May through July 25, a period that includes the impact of the highly transmissible Delta variant.

The new data released on Tuesday involved more than 43,000 reported infections among Los Angeles County residents aged 16 and older. Of them, 10,895, or 25.3%, occurred in fully vaccinated persons, 1,431, or 3.3%, were in partially vaccinated persons, and 30,801, or 71.4%, were in unvaccinated individuals.

The vaccines did, however, protect individuals from more severe cases. According to the study, 3.2% of fully vaccinated individuals who were infected with the virus were hospitalized, just 0.05% were admitted to an intensive care unit and 0.25% were placed on a ventilator.

Among the unvaccinated who fell ill, 7.5% were hospitalized, 1.5% were admitted to an intensive care unit and 0.5% required breathing support with a mechanical ventilator.

Much fewer unfavorable outcomes [hospitalization and serious illnesses] for those that are vaccinated.

Hoping that there will not be yet worse variants that proliferate and cause severe reinfections of those that have already had COVID or more adverse infections of those which are vaccinated.

Clearly those that are vaccinated now have to be cautious for themselves but also as to being a vector for those that are unvaccinated, especially youngsters who have yet to have the opportunity to become vaccinated.

Mask up, limit interactions with those that you do not cohabitate with.

[Mike OReilly]

Ontario's (conservative) government is another one which is politically disinclined to bringing in any sort of provincial vaccine passport/certificate. But with a growing number of organizations and businesses demanding proof of vaccine status...

GTA health units looking into vaccine passports with or without the province

Mac, you're so right about the lack of a national approach to these kinds of issues. Too bad the drafters of the Constitution Act, (1867), didn't assign healthcare to the federal level.

[Midnight Son]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Ontario's (conservative) government is another one which is politically disinclined to bringing in any sort of provincial vaccine passport/certificate. But with a growing number of organizations and businesses demanding proof of vaccine status...

GTA health units looking into vaccine passports with or without the province

Mac, you're so right about the lack of a national approach to these kinds of issues. Too bad the drafters of the Constitution Act, (1867), didn't assign healthcare to the federal level.

Manitoba is also PC, but snuck it in as a card, with QR code. YMMV!

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Midnight Son

Manitoba is also PC, but snuck it in as a card, with QR code. YMMV!

It's all in the messaging I guess .

But I think the Manitoba government, after a bit of a rough patch, really buckled down and instituted quite strict public health measures. This may explain why Manitoba's numbers are on par with Atlantic Canada now.

[Halifax Sailor]

I see numbers,so many numbers from the experts now, how the percentages are working for us. Last ones I saw were 1% of all school age children would be affected by delta. (Toronto alone has 200000 kids in school so 2000 kids. Nova Scotia 100000 kids so 1000 students.) How seriously? no one has really touched that one. So, doesn't sound bad right? 1%, not bad I guess unless you are the one!! and if you understand stats until you know who is that 1%, the chances are really 50/50.

Putting that into terms that non-math people really understand (no insult intended) , here's a bag of 100 jelly beans. There is 1, only 1, jelly bean in there that will make you sick, maybe not that sick, might die though. 1/3 chances you will die, other 2 chances you might have long term mental or physical issues. Would you willingly give those jelly beans to all the kids in your community? Every kid a bag of jelly beans! Every day, 5 days a week.

Now if we wear masks all the time, maybe we say all the red jelly beans might make you sick, BUT there are 10% red jelly beans in the bag and those red ones have rubbed up against all the other jelly beans....................and so on and so on.

Interesting line of thought as we play casino with our kids, our futures, the ones who will take care of us as we age. and all we have to do is continue precautions for a while longer. Try get take all the red jelly beans out of all the bags, we wont get them all but we can try.

Everyone talks about the greatest generation, those that went overseas for 6 years, some of them. We have been in this for 18 months maybe and our "war zone" is world wide. I will be wearing my mask for the forseeable future to protect me, my family and my community, not a big sacrifice in my opinion. And the numbers, its all jelly beans to me.

[dwedeking2]

If you really cared you'd wear a hazmat suit. Get rid of all the jelly beans

[desodave]

The Canadian government has re-opened another element of the US/Canada marine border - ferry traffic - at least on the Pacific Coast. However, the operators note a need for the US government to respond similarly before full operation can be resumed.

https://www.goldstreamgazette.com/ne...erry-provider/

[Stu Jackson]

Very well put and a good analogy. I replied to another post on another thread here earlier today, where some skipper from Floriduh said he didn't get vaccinated, UNTIL some people he knew DIED from covid. How stupid can ya be? He'd probably be willing to eat all the jellybeans even though you explained this to him first, until one of his friends ate the red one. Still an idiot.



Avoidable major health issues being willfully ignored is stupidity. Three or more US State Governors forceably trying to thwart health measures is criminal negligence if not homicide.

Originally Posted by Halifax Sailor

I see numbers,so many numbers from the experts now, how the percentages are working for us. Last ones I saw were 1% of all school age children would be affected by delta. (Toronto alone has 200000 kids in school so 2000 kids. Nova Scotia 100000 kids so 1000 students.) How seriously? no one has really touched that one. So, doesn't sound bad right? 1%, not bad I guess unless you are the one!! and if you understand stats until you know who is that 1%, the chances are really 50/50.

Putting that into terms that non-math people really understand (no insult intended) , here's a bag of 100 jelly beans. There is 1, only 1, jelly bean in there that will make you sick, maybe not that sick, might die though. 1/3 chances you will die, other 2 chances you might have long term mental or physical issues. Would you willingly give those jelly beans to all the kids in your community? Every kid a bag of jelly beans! Every day, 5 days a week.

Now if we wear masks all the time, maybe we say all the red jelly beans might make you sick, BUT there are 10% red jelly beans in the bag and those red ones have rubbed up against all the other jelly beans....................and so on and so on.

Interesting line of thought as we play casino with our kids, our futures, the ones who will take care of us as we age. and all we have to do is continue precautions for a while longer. Try get take all the red jelly beans out of all the bags, we wont get them all but we can try.

Everyone talks about the greatest generation, those that went overseas for 6 years, some of them. We have been in this for 18 months maybe and our "war zone" is world wide. I will be wearing my mask for the forseeable future to protect me, my family and my community, not a big sacrifice in my opinion. And the numbers, its all jelly beans to me.