Canadian COVID-19 News

[sv_pelagia]

Drugs and vaccines for COVID-19: List of authorized clinical trials
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...ed-trials.html

[pcmm]

Originally Posted by sv_pelagia

I didn't give full info above (which IS available on the link).
Pfizer and Moderna ARE approved for children aged 12 and older.

No application yet for under 12s.

There might be other vaccines being worked on (for adults and/or kids), but none yet approved by Health Canada. The link above gives the official status.

Another important link is the Federal "National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI). Although technically" advisory" - - Provinces can make their own decisions (subject to Health Canada regulations) - - NACI tends to be listened to
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...-vaccines.html

Thank you for asking.

Currently only pfizer is approved for use in the 12-17 age group

[kmacdonald]

Originally Posted by sv_pelagia

I didn't give full info above (which IS available on the link).
Pfizer and Moderna ARE approved for children aged 12 and older.

No application yet for under 12s.

There might be other vaccines being worked on (for adults and/or kids), but none yet approved by Health Canada. The link above gives the official status.

Another important link is the Federal "National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI). Although technically" advisory" - - Provinces can make their own decisions (subject to Health Canada regulations) - - NACI tends to be listened to
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...-vaccines.html

Thank you for asking.

Could the delay in asking for approval be that Pfizer feels the available vaccine doses could be used more effectively in adults in other countries? Or maybe waiting on a newer vaccine covering some of the variants?

[Macblaze]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

BTW, on a personal note, my brother-in-law is an Alberta anesthesiologist. He just had a Covid near-death experience during an emergency cesarean case. They came close to losing the mom and child because all the trained staff has been shifted to caring for Covid-19 patients.

This.

One of the things that gets buried in our modern soundbite, twitter-style information dispersal system is that these secondary consequences — most of which won't be obvious for years — are getting lost in a stupid conflict between "act, and act now" and "let's wait and see."

Imagine how you would feel if you were a general RN or MD seconded to the operating theatre and you lost a mother and child (or whatever the situation really was). And how many outcomes are being changed by this massive disruption to hospitals? And oh, btw, did you know as soon as this is over we are going to revise (read that as cut back) the health care system to "save" the taxpayers money. I just can't roll my eyes back far enough with this stuff. And meanwhile we are still faffing around with issues surrounding personal rights and privileged classes' access to "necessary" services — rights and services our grandparents couldn't even imagine existed 70 years ago whilst actually doing very little to effect a solution.

Bite the bullet. Rip the bandage off. Stand up and take it. Just suck it up and John Wayne this d*mn thing. Literally, take your medicine. Just do it.

I actually don't care if we all grow an extra finger because some greedy pharmaceutical company slipped in some 5g dna...the alternatives are going to be worse. The alternative is worse here in Alberta.

[sv_pelagia]

Originally Posted by pcmm

Currently only pfizer is approved for use in the 12-17 age group

Incorrect!

from: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal.../covid-19.html

Vaccines approved for children and youth

Health Canada has authorized the following mRNA COVID-19 vaccines for youth aged 12 and older:

Pfizer-BioNTech Comirnaty COVID-19 vaccine
Moderna Spikevax COVID-19 vaccine

People aged 12 to 17 may receive the same 2-dose schedule recommended for adults.

At this time, no COVID-19 vaccine has been approved for use in children under the age of 12 in Canada. Clinical trials are underway to determine

[Scorpius]

Originally Posted by pcmm

Trust me, you're not even doing that right!

Canadians can fly in ( and fly home), but not drive, but can pay a driver to bring their car to their place in the U.S. Canadians can't get a cruising license to move their boat to Canada BUT can pay a Canadian Captain to do the exact same thing.

I guess on the whole its not much more confusing than the U.S. was before covid!

On the upside a lot more Canadians are boating because of Covid and more local cruising is starting to happen!!

They don't even need to take it to your destination. There are services running out of the Vancouver area who will take your RV or car across the border to Bellingham airport (20 miles) on a commercial truck (and therefore exempt from the border closure) - then you fly down from Abbotsford (25 miles to Bellingham) then drive, as usual, to your place in California or Arizona. Ingenious! If there's a way to make a buck, somebody will figure it out!

[GordMay]

Health minister expects Pfizer submission for kids' COVID-19 vaccine in October
Health Minister Patty Hajdu said she expects a submission from Pfizer in the coming weeks for the use of the company's COVID-19 vaccine in children ages five to 11.
Pfizer said Tuesday it has submitted study data to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and expects to apply for the emergency authorization of its use for children south of the border in the coming weeks.
➥ https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...ober-1.5604086

[Pelagic]

Does Canada have a Law which mandates that the right to manage Covid-19 Restrictioms/Lockdowns rests with each Provincial Government and not the Federal Government?

Just read an article on Bloomberg suggesting that one of the reasons the Philippines is the worst of 53 countries in Covid management, is because (by Law) each municipality/Baranguy determines its own response.

[Scorpius]

Originally Posted by Scorpius

Didn't I hear a news item on CBC last week saying that Pfizer had submitted the test results to the FDC in the US and to Health Canada simultaneously?

Oops My bad. Tuesday, Canada's Health Minister, Patty Hadji said she expects Pfizer to apply for Canadian approval of their Comirnaty vaccine for use in children 5 to 11 sometime in October.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/health...ober-1.5604086

[pcmm]

Originally Posted by sv_pelagia

Incorrect!

from: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal.../covid-19.html

Vaccines approved for children and youth

Health Canada has authorized the following mRNA COVID-19 vaccines for youth aged 12 and older:

Pfizer-BioNTech Comirnaty COVID-19 vaccine
Moderna Spikevax COVID-19 vaccine

People aged 12 to 17 may receive the same 2-dose schedule recommended for adults.

At this time, no COVID-19 vaccine has been approved for use in children under the age of 12 in Canada. Clinical trials are underway to determine

Interesting, health canada seems to be contradicting themselves as in your previous link

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...-vaccines.html

Moderna isn't indicated for that age group! It doesn't seem to have been publicized much. great if its true, gives more choice to those but right now in Ontario they are only doing pfizer for 12-17 (just helped my son's GF get sorted with her vaccinations)

Interseting that the JnJ vaccine is on the list. I haven't see it available anywhere!

[Scorpius]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Does Canada have a Law which mandates that the right to manage Covid-19 Restrictioms/Lockdowns rests with each Provincial Government and not the Federal Government?

Just read an article on Bloomberg suggesting that one of the reasons the Philippines is the worst of 53 countries in Covid management, is because (by Law) each municipality/Baranguy determines its own response.

Canadian health care is managed and delivered by the provinces. The federal government provides some funding (not enough) but with strings attached: like specifying compulsory "standards of care". The feds also provide some services (like research labs and drug approval) that make more sense to do federally rather than provincially. It's our standard, overlapping jurisdictional arrangement that makes politics in this country so interesting.

So yes, on-the-ground management of the pandemic falls to the individual provinces - which explains the different approaches taken, and results achieved, between, for example, Alberta and the maritimes.

[desodave]

There were reports last winter of the same workaround in the East - ship the RV/car to Buffalo and fly in to pick it up and head south. I have 2 friends with diesel coaches who like to winter in Arizona, one of whom is investigating the Bellingham option this year and the other who has decided to stay in Canada again this winter. I haven't heard yet whether there will be any health insurance issues for them, ie, dramatically increased costs.



There have been lots of US boats in the Desolation Sound area and in our marina since the border was reopened for them. Anchorages were well populated with Canadian boats before that ... one dockmate observed that he didn't know that many Canadians had boats.



We have several whale/wildlife watching tour operators who work out of our marina. Business was dead before the border restrictions (Euro as well as US) were relaxed - they're now really busy again, especially with Euro customers. We were waiting outside our boatyard on Friday (a delayed re-launching after bottom painting) and had conversations with a group of English tourists, and also 2 sisters, one from Ottawa the other from Texas. One of the tour operators told us that the border opening really rescued them - business was about 10% of normal before that.

[kmacdonald]

Originally Posted by pcmm

Trust me, you're not even doing that right!

Canadians can fly in ( and fly home), but not drive, but can pay a driver to bring their car to their place in the U.S. Canadians can't get a cruising license to move their boat to Canada BUT can pay a Canadian Captain to do the exact same thing.

I guess on the whole its not much more confusing than the U.S. was before covid!

On the upside a lot more Canadians are boating because of Covid and more local cruising is starting to happen!!

Originally Posted by Scorpius

They don't even need to take it to your destination. There are services running out of the Vancouver area who will take your RV or car across the border to Bellingham airport (20 miles) on a commercial truck (and therefore exempt from the border closure) - then you fly down from Abbotsford (25 miles to Bellingham) then drive, as usual, to your place in California or Arizona. Ingenious! If there's a way to make a buck, somebody will figure it out!

Nice (or not) to see the US isn't alone in poor governance. No wonder the global response was soo poor.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Does Canada have a Law which mandates that the right to manage Covid-19 Restrictioms/Lockdowns rests with each Provincial Government and not the Federal Government?

As Scorpius says, it's a jurisdiction issue. In Canada's case, it is not just a law, it is part of our Constitution.

The provinces have authority (sovereignty) over issues considered more local in nature, with all other powers assigned to the federal government. So the provinces got healthcare, education, social welfare, municipalities, natural resources, and the like.

It's why we don't have a national healthcare system, but a poorly-knitted quilt of 13 provincial and territorial systems. All part of our sometimes dysfunctional confederation.


If anyone is interested: https://www.canada.ca/en/intergovern...ve-powers.html

[Macblaze]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

So the provinces got healthcare, education, social welfare, municipalities, natural resources, and the like. [/url]

And the big one... the right to tax booze!