Canadian COVID-19 News

[danstanford]

Does anyone have any experience with certification of Covid Vaccine shots done elsewhere? I am going to the US before I am eligible for my booster so I am thinking about getting it down there and now wondering how it would be recorded.

[hpeer]

Gord,

How does that help non-Canadians or Canadians returning from an extended period over seas?

We are fully vaccinated in the USAz

And since the communication is for frequent travelers, presumably it is for folks outside Canada.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by hpeer

And how does that help non-Canadians?

H, the ArriveCAN website specifically includes a section called "Others without Canadian proof of vaccination." It goes through the process of uploading the digital documents. It does not specify having those documents as native-digital, so I assume a scan of your paper document would suffice.

https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/tr...g-canada#proof

[hpeer]

Mike,
Thanks for that.
I will check that in a couple of days.
Up to my keister now and can’t concentrate.

[Scorpius]

If Omicron is more transmissible, but results in less serious disease and not a huge increase in hospitalization, maybe it's just what we need to get Immunization levels up.

Just sayin'

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Scorpius

If Omicron is more transmissible, but results in less serious disease and not a huge increase in hospitalization, maybe it's just what we need to get Immunization levels up.

Just sayin'

Maybe... although it could play into the anti narrative that Covid-19 has been just like the flu, or a bad cold. It hasn't been so far, but it would be great news if the SARS-CoV-2 virus is evolving into something that causes less mortality and morbidity.

This is how the influenza virus co-exists with its host (us). Every once in a while a new strain comes along that is a lot more virulent (eg Spanish Flu), but most strains hit the sweet spot of making us sick enough to propagate the virus, but not so sick as to kill us.

[N Coast Murray]

Originally Posted by Scorpius

If Omicron is more transmissible, but results in less serious disease and not a huge increase in hospitalization, maybe it's just what we need to get Immunization levels up.

Just sayin'

The unknown factor is...even a very small percentage of people ending up in hospital from a massively huge number of people getting sick might clog up the system and people who need surgeries will have to wait, or maybe die.

[Scorpius]

Originally Posted by N Coast Murray

The unknown factor is...even a very small percentage of people ending up in hospital from a massively huge number of people getting sick might clog up the system and people who need surgeries will have to wait, or maybe die.

I realize that. We are walking a very fine line.

[N Coast Murray]

Originally Posted by Scorpius

I realize that. We are walking a very fine line.

Very fine indeed. Me-thinks we're hoping for the same outcome.

We seem to have gotten lucky on this Omicron variant.

Whoever was infected by two viruses which then swapped genetic material whilst in the same cell, thereby creating Omicron, could just as easily have had a different second virus which could have spawned a new variant with a much, much, higher mortality rate. Random dumb luck.

Viruses have been on this planet a whole heck of a lot longer than we have. It's not even close to being a fair fight. Good thing our species is so intelligent

[Mike OReilly]

Perhaps I'm suffering from the optimism bias here, but I am pleased to note that while case counts are rising steeply in Canada (mostly in Quebec and Ontario), our hospitalizations are still declining ... at least so far:

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...ast7&map=pt#a7

[sv_pelagia]

Up-to-date British Columbia data (Dec 14, 2021):

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Maybe... although it could play into the anti narrative that Covid-19 has been just like the flu, or a bad cold. It hasn't been so far, but it would be great news if the SARS-CoV-2 virus is evolving into something that causes less mortality and morbidity.

This is how the influenza virus co-exists with its host (us). Every once in a while a new strain comes along that is a lot more virulent (eg Spanish Flu), but most strains hit the sweet spot of making us sick enough to propagate the virus, but not so sick as to kill us.

I am hoping the same Mike. The one thing we are still missing in this narrative, is enough "TIME" to have reached a medical treatment that is beyond repudiation.

We live in a world too fast and impatient to believe that the medical solution based on accumulated data, will take time .

Meanwhile, I am encouraging everyone to take a booster shot asap

[jen1722terry]

Yes, kind sailors, we agree with Mike O. that it will take years to determine the vast impacts of this perniciously persistent pandemic (not to menion of my alliteration).

And there do not appear to be many, if any, safe harbors. We're presently at our other home in Nova Scotia (we're Yanks from New Hampshire with it's high infection/death rate, hence the state motto: "Live, Breathe and Die"). For now, we feel safer here than in the US. But that security may be elusive as this new variant begins to gallop around the Maritimes.

Each day we're pretty much locked down and, with time on our hands, we seem to think of new issues, like:

How long do the boosters last? I'm more than 3 months out on mine (I'm 73 with comorbidites, including an abject aversion to sailing upwind).

Can one be infected with Omicron twice? Three times?

Can one be infected with two variants simultaneously?

What's the long-covid potential with Omicron?

Will future variants become so wildly contagious that they can travel great distances in the wind and still be infectious (which will only increase my aversion to sailing upwind)?

Are we living in a sci fi movie and, if so, when the hell is the intermission?

And so forth.

Anyhow, y'all stay as safe as you can. Cruise as well as you can, cherish your loved ones
and, if you're in Nova Scotia next summer, stop by and see us - but not too closely.

Happy Holidays!

[Nord Sal]

Originally Posted by Scorpius

If Omicron is more transmissible, but results in less serious disease and not a huge increase in hospitalization, maybe it's just what we need to get Immunization levels up.

Just sayin'

Did you mean immunity levels up?

[Scorpius]

Originally Posted by Nord Sal

Did you mean immunity levels up?

Yup. I guess I did.