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[deblen]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

No, a new employee from the marina: Sheena. I'll PM you. I think I need more help than the marina staff is willing to provide.



Agreed , although not unexpected I suppose. The cover has been up for 24/7 since September 2019. It was never designed for this kind of use, so I guess I can't complain too much. But I do fear for what we'll find come the Spring (assuming we can go to NL in the Spring).

Before and after pics... just for fun:

Mike
From my personal experience here on GMI:
We have many 40-60 + kt days during Oct-Apr.These are cold,heavy,powerful winds- much more destructive than the same windspeeds in warm air.
It is impossible to keep tarp type/custom canvas covers from tearing. We have tried all types of frameworks,etc-none work.
Our only successful solutions so far have been:
Well done shrink wrap.
Stimson type building-well built & well anchored.
Move the boat inland to a forested "fir thicket" lea.


On a second note-our commercial boats are uncovered all winter,without damage.
This far north,in winter,we don't get the UV degradation amounts-short daylight.
As long as there are no pooling/leaking pockets for freshwater,expansion splitting due to freezing trapped water doesn't happen. Freezing of open water doesn't usually cause damage.
Snow filling the cockpit & turning to slush by the inevitable following rainstorm and then re-freezing can cause damage over time. The added weight can be harmful to wooden boats,especially. Extra blocking/posting under this area is good practice for an out of water stored boat.
Shovelling the cockpit snow is good,or tent covering just the cockpit is good.
I am in no way suggesting that a nicely varnished.painted & polished yacht should be left uncovered. I am just pointing out that one winter uncovered is not likely to cause any problems.
Cheers/Len

[Greg K]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

The thing some people don't seem to understand is that "science" is not a thing. It's not a "Gospel, or government, or corporation, or an expert." It is a process that allows us to delve into mysteries. And unlike other ways of knowing, it does it so despite our human flaws.

People who equate science to religion or government simply demonstrate that they don't understand what science actually is.

Like any process, it doesn't always proceed linearly. And human biases and flaws still raise their heads to throw progress off course. Sometimes we leap ahead. And sometimes we end up going in reverse. But the great thing about the process of science is that, unlike all other ways of knowing, it is a self-correcting method which eventually leads to greater understanding of reality.

Covid-19 has given all of us a front-row seat into the process of science. But some can't, or won't, understand how science works.

Really? So you think opposition to these mRNA vaccines stems simply from stupid, uneducated people misunderstanding what science is?

Why don't you have a look at this 38 minute video powerpoint presentation from the Canadiancovidcarealliance.org and tell us where they get the science wrong?

https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer...than-good.html

[Macblaze]

I usually ignore you but I will make an exception and answer, and assume I speak for a bunch of us.

Originally Posted by Greg K

Really? So you think opposition to these mRNA vaccines stems simply from stupid, uneducated people misunderstanding what science is?

Yes.



The rest is purely my opinion:

Originally Posted by Greg K

Why don't you have a look at this 38 minute video powerpoint presentation from the Canadiancovidcarealliance.org and tell us where they get the science wrong?

https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer...than-good.html

Rumble.com... very science-ey. Yup. OMFG...
And really, Canadiancovidcarealliance.org? Why would anyone in their right mind and with even the slightest bit internet-savvy click on a link with a "click-bait" domain like that? Do you even understand the argument being presented that legitimate, reliable and reviewed sites are the only places we should be getting our information?

[Greg K]

Originally Posted by Macblaze

I usually ignore you but I will make an exception and answer, and assume I speak for a bunch of us.



Yes.



The rest is purely my opinion:



Rumble.com... very science-ey. Yup. OMFG...
And really, Canadiancovidcarealliance.org? Why would anyone in their right mind and with even the slightest bit internet-savvy click on a link with a "click-bait" domain like that? Do you even understand the argument being presented that legitimate, reliable and reviewed sites are the only places we should be getting our information?

How about we skip the bullcrap about the source and just comment on the veracity of the information in the presentation itself.

[Zippee]

Regarding this "Covid Care Alliance":

I'm sorry but to me - to me - this appears just outdated, well-produced, highly parsed and mispresented anti-vaxx presentation. Their website is not secure, and rather than ANY vaccine, promotes ivermectin, mouthwash, aspirin, vitamin D, et al as preventative.

I would be interested in what group financed this production.

Sadly, there remains a large group of people who have been heavily influenced in this fashion, and who remain unvaccinated, thus becoming an effective human vector of transmission, not to mention filling up our hospitals when the mouthwash doesn't work, and thus denying other important medical care to the public at large.

Linked at this dubious site:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-c...ol-ENGLISH.pdf

[Macblaze]

Originally Posted by Greg K

How about we skip the bullcrap about the source and just comment on the veracity of the information in the presentation itself.

Or I could pour boiling vinegar in my eyes? Hmmm, choices, choices, choices...

[TrentePieds]

So who, precisely, IS this lot: Canadiancovidcarealliance?

Perhaps, if you were to link to the CVs and present employment of the principal driving forces behind this "alliance", your post might carry more weight.

Sculling around on the organization's site I note that it bears a remarkable resemblance to, say, The Canadian Taxpayers' Federation, an organization that is notoriously connected with and funded by such stalwart guardians of the welfare of the Common Man as Charlie and Dave (Koch) and their Atlas Network - ever on guard, they are, against encroachment upon the God-given territory of the 1% by the benighted 99%.

One of the things too few Canadians seem able to guard against, or even to smell when it is stuck right under their noses, is what is so politely called "cultural diffusion". Pray that that may change!

All the best for the new year :-)!

TrentePieds

[Greg K]

Originally Posted by Zippee

Regarding this "Covid Care Alliance":

I'm sorry but to me - to me - this appears just outdated, well-produced, highly parsed and mispresented anti-vaxx presentation. Their website is not secure, and rather than ANY vaccine, promotes ivermectin, mouthwash, aspirin, vitamin D, et al as preventative.

I would be interested in what group financed this production.

Sadly, there remains a large group of people who have been heavily influenced in this fashion, and who remain unvaccinated, thus becoming an effective human vector of transmission, not to mention filling up our hospitals when the mouthwash doesn't work, and thus denying other important medical care to the public at large.

Linked at this dubious site:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-c...ol-ENGLISH.pdf

Bravo, I presume to make that statement you must have at least watched some of that presentation. What exactly did you consider to be "misrepresented" ?

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Macblaze

Rumble.com... very science-ey. Yup. OMFG...
And really, Canadiancovidcarealliance.org? Why would anyone in their right mind and with even the slightest bit internet-savvy click on a link with a "click-bait" domain like that? Do you even understand the argument being presented that legitimate, reliable and reviewed sites are the only places we should be getting our information?

Actually, this post you refer to proves my point rather well. Some people simply don't understand what science actually is, or how it works. That doesn't make them stupid, although it does mean they are ignorant (uneducated, without suggesting official academia is the only way to be educated) in this regard.

[Tetepare]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

No, a new employee from the marina: Sheena. I'll PM you. I think I need more help than the marina staff is willing to provide.



Agreed , although not unexpected I suppose. The cover has been up for 24/7 since September 2019. It was never designed for this kind of use, so I guess I can't complain too much. But I do fear for what we'll find come the Spring (assuming we can go to NL in the Spring).

Before and after pics... just for fun:

Oh no! She's a beauty still. A bit of polish and varnish in spring and she'll be as good as new.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Tetepare

Oh no! She's a beauty still. A bit of polish and varnish in spring and she'll be as good as new.

Thanks TP. She's a tough old boat. And she is a beauty (from a distance, anyway ). I just worry about the teak deck and all those freeze-thaw cycles. She'll survive though. Just might mean our first season is a recovery one.

[Tetepare]

Can someone recover for you? Or at least tarp the foredeck! Wish I could help.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Tetepare

Can someone recover for you? Or at least tarp the foredeck! Wish I could help.

Very much appreciate the kind words. I have no doubt you would help if you could.

The marina has been less than helpful, but thanks to Hpeer, a fellow Lewisporte member and CFer (hope you don't mind me saying so Howard), I have a good line on some local assistance.

As I say, she'll survive. It's just a question of what level of recovery I'll face in the Spring. And in the end, it's only a boat. If it all falls to ruin, I'll find another way.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by TrentePieds

So who, precisely, IS this lot: Canadiancovidcarealliance? ...

According to Dunn & Bradstreet:
Canadian Covid Care Alliance, is a business, Incorporated 23 April 2021, is located in Toronto, ON, Canada, and is part of the Health and Personal Care Stores Industry. Canadian Covid Care Alliance has 2 total employees across all of its locations, and generates $651,200 in sales.

Directors
Steven Pelech
Karen Levins
David Ross

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[Greg K]

Here's a longish essay giving a much wider perspective on the pandemic from Canadian Anthropologist Maximilian Forte of Concordia U. in Montreal.

That's if anyone still reads longish essays these days.

Trigger warning: his perspective is not particularly aligned with yours here.

https://zeroanthropology.net/2021/12...ent-emergency/