Canadian COVID-19 News

[Dieseldude]

Originally Posted by Narfi

Could you explain this better, it doesn't make sense to me.....

Are you saying that of 100 people tested without covid, 97 of them will still test positive?

I find that pretty incredible and hard to believe......

Please do not feel badly. You are one of many millions who have been duped my media and government propaganda. Yes, with a 97% false positive rate, any random group of 100 people can rest positive with PCR. The actual number will rely on the number of threshold cycles used in the test. You need to do your own research on that, as an explanation can be lengthy. But the more cycles that the test is done with, the greater the chance of a false positive. In many states and provinces, the test has been taken as high as the high 30's and low 40's. The WHO had been recommending a maximum of 20. But even at 20, false positives are generated.


The WHO admitted months ago that the PCR test generates excessive false positives.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/12/18/...lse-positives/





Dr. Jared Bullard, head of the Cadham Provincial Laboratory in Winnipeg, testified in court on behalf of the Manitoba government. Bullard said PCR test results don’t verify infectiousness and were never intended to be used to diagnose respiratory illnesses. Bullard testified that the most accurate way to determine infectiousness is to try to grow a cell culture from a patient’s sample. He found that, for samples that tested positive at 18 Ct, only 44 percent would grow in a lab, suggesting that 56 percent were non-infectious. He was unable to develop any viable lab cultures for samples that tested positive at Ct values higher than 25, which implies that “positive” cases resulting from those tests were most likely non-infectious.

This kind of news is seldom reported by big media. Much of the problem lies not only in false news, but lies in the non reporting of true news.

Kary Mullis, inventer of PCR test: “With PCR, if you do it well, you can find anything in anybody.”


The test amplifies extremely minute quantities of molecules of genetic material. Amplify it enough, and harmless background material causes a false positive. The test does not distinguish between living viable material and old dead material that me be residual from an infection of long ago.

[Dieseldude]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

I'm betting the DDude won't respond to that.

Read on to another posting...

[Mike OReilly]

Just stop feeding the troll. He'll move on.

[sv_pelagia]

I recommend we continue to post real data and relevant discussions.

MIS-information posts are attempting to get this thread closed ('cause this thread has dared to be, mostly, about reality).

Junk posts are best left behind. Real data should win out.

[Dieseldude]

Originally Posted by sv_pelagia

I recommend we continue to post real data and relevant discussions.

MIS-information posts are attempting to get this thread closed ('cause this thread has dared to be, mostly, about reality).

Junk posts are best left behind. Real data should win out.

Please look back at quotes from The Lancet and British Medical Journal. If this is not real, then what qualifies? Seems that some people do the same as big media, ignoring reality.

[Dieseldude]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Just stop feeding the troll. He'll move on.

You choose to ignore court testimony of the head of a provincial microbiology lab and quotes from two prestigious medical journals ? Seems that you enjoy doing

[Mike OReilly]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/corona...2022-1.6318754

CBC: COVID-19 hospitalizations hit new highs in Canada's two most populous provinces, officials reported Tuesday, with 4,183 total hospitalizations in Ontario and 3,417 hospitalizations in Quebec.

...
but with some signs of optimism:

Dr. Eileen de Villa, Toronto's medical officer of health, said Tuesday that it's too early to know if the Omicron-driven wave has peaked in the city.
"While it is still too early to know for sure, we are seeing initial indicators that the rate of infection may have plateaued or started to decline," she said, adding that there's still a long way to go.

[sv_pelagia]

U.K., not Canada


https://mobile.twitter.com/PaulMainw...256901/photo/1

Data plotted from data in:
https://www.icnarc.org/DataServices/...a-00505601089b

[Dieseldude]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/corona...2022-1.6318754

...
but with some signs of optimism:

You actually trust the CBC which who's funding is funneled through a corrupt federal government?

[Mike OReilly]

Here's an interesting discussion paper looking at the legal issues around Canadian vaccine mandates and/or taxes.

COVID-19 vaccine mandates would likely face legal hurdles in Canada

Whether a government can mandate vaccines depends on what exactly a new law says. Canadians have rights to make decisions about vaccination but these rights are not absolute. And having rights does not mean there will be no consequences for your decisions.

[Macblaze]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Here's an interesting discussion paper looking at the legal issues around Canadian vaccine mandates and/or taxes.

COVID-19 vaccine mandates would likely face legal hurdles in Canada

I think this is relevant bit:

That said, it raises serious policy issues. Universal health care does not cost more for citizens simply because they are more likely to need health care. That’s part of what makes it universal. It’s not like private insurance that ties premiums to risk. Tobacco and alcohol may be heavily taxed, but we don’t tax dangerous sporting activities, unhealthy eating, having a stressful job or lack of exercise.

Charging more for universal health care based on personal choices is controversial and raises important moral and practical issues. Governments should think carefully about the implications before eroding the principle of universality.

We'd be shooting ourselves in the foot if we started to punish people who won't agree. For me it's not the moral issue but rather the nature of "universal." I like universal. Sometimes I'd like to exclude the idiots as much as the next guy — for a whole raft of activities — but the way lies the creation of abuse and "dictatorship."

[GordMay]

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I cannot believe that anyone could be so delusional, as to actually believe the absurdities you’ve been spouting.

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[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Macblaze

We'd be shooting ourselves in the foot if we started to punish people who won't agree. For me it's not the moral issue but rather the nature of "universal." I like universal. Sometimes I'd like to exclude the idiots as much as the next guy — for a whole raft of activities — but the way lies the creation of abuse and "dictatorship."

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by Macblaze

I think this is relevant bit:

We'd be shooting ourselves in the foot if we started to punish people who won't agree. For me it's not the moral issue but rather the nature of "universal." I like universal. Sometimes I'd like to exclude the idiots as much as the next guy — for a whole raft of activities — but the way lies the creation of abuse and "dictatorship."

I think you're quite right.


And also, how about the entire families who have congenital health issues passed down through generations? Ain't the fault of the kids who are born into it, is it?

[Dieseldude]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Here's an interesting discussion paper looking at the legal issues around Canadian vaccine mandates and/or taxes.

COVID-19 vaccine mandates would likely face legal hurdles in Canada

Probably would not survive a charter challenge, since the government has not demonstrated "reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society." Nor can they show this.


Even now truckers are planning to converge on Ottawa to shutdown the city until the mandates are rescinded.


https://www.facebook.com/Freedom-Con...0286905896085/


https://truthtellernl.wordpress.com/...m-convoy-2022/


We can only wait to see how big this gets and what will be its effect. It seems that the last straw for truckers was the cross border vax mandate.