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[Wotname]

Originally Posted by smbdyiam2

Does this have any effect on global warming . climate change. food shortages?

Anything good?

Water in the Venice canals is getting cleaner and the dolphins are returning.

[Woodland Hills]

Originally Posted by smbdyiam2

Does this have any effect on global warming . climate change. food shortages?

Anything good?

All the dead people my age might help keep Social Security solvent a little longer. Lots of middle-aged people will inherit their parents estates several years earlier than expected. Fox News could lose a large part of its core audience.

[smbdyiam2]

Originally Posted by Woodland Hills

All the dead people my age might help keep Social Security solvent a little longer. Lots of middle-aged people will inherit their parents estates several years earlier than expected. Fox News could lose a large part of its core audience.

that's a lot of news on economy, I was wondering about climate change ,global worming and food shortages. The economy does not keep this world spinning.

[Olly75]

NO2 levels over China from january and feb. Bit of an improvement... source NASA.

[Tonali99]

Originally Posted by smbdyiam2

Does this have any effect on global warming . climate change. food shortages?

Anything good?

I cannot see how climate change could be affected by a virus.
If the virus was infecting plants, such as the 'greening' virus present if some orange groves. Then perhaps. Those trees were cut down and burned by the way.
Any epidemic can disrupt food supply at the back end. That is the delivery system. When people over buy a temporary shortage will occur, take the drivers out tof the equasion and it gets much worse.
It's why all family farmers are armed.

[Woodland Hills]

Originally Posted by smbdyiam2

that's a lot of news on economy, I was wondering about climate change ,global worming and food shortages. The economy does not keep this world spinning.

You left a triple space and asked “Anything good?” I assumed you wanted an answer. The only way the virus will effect the environment is by removing either humans from it or by diminishing human economic activity. Global warming is entirely caused by human economic activity from the first burning of coal in the Industrial Revolution to the release of methane from fracking operations in 2020. You simply cannot separate the two.

Shutting down an economy to fight a virus will lower greenhouse gas emissions, killing large numbers of humans whose economic activity creates and then releases greenhouse gasses will also lower emissions.

[El Pinguino]

I am getting a bit pissed orf about the treatment of cruise liners, their passengers and their crews.

What is the difference between 2500 passengers arriving on a boat and 2500 people arriving on lets say a dozen 787s?
Do they park the 'planes at the end of the runway and refuse to let the people off?
No...
They just release the 'plane passengers into the community on a 'trust' basis....

and how many then behave like Mr and Mrs Lombard* ?

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...26-p54eac.html

*Lombard ... Lots Of Money But A Real Dickhead.

[rbk]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

I am getting a bit pissed orf about the treatment of cruise liners, their passengers and their crews.

What is the difference between 2500 passengers arriving on a boat and 2500 people arriving on lets say a dozen 787s?
Do they park the 'planes at the end of the runway and refuse to let the people off?
No...
They just release the 'plane passengers into the community on a 'trust' basis....

and how many then behave like Mr and Mrs Lombard* ?

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...26-p54eac.html

*Lombard ... Lots Of Money But A Real Dickhead.

I agree that plane passengers are not being screened enough but cruise passengers are living 24/7 for 7-14 days on the ship, sleeping, eating along with expending every bodily fluid during that time. It is a much shorter duration on a plane with much less interaction on a smaller vessel.

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by rbk

I agree that plane passengers are not being screened enough but cruise passengers are living 24/7 for 7-14 days on the ship, sleeping, eating along with expending every bodily fluid during that time. It is a much shorter duration on a plane with much less interaction on a smaller vessel.

And what have the 'plane passengers been doing for 7/14 days before getting on the plane?

[Tonali99]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

And what have the 'plane passengers been doing for 7/14 days before getting on the plane?

well, since they're not arresting criminals anymore 'cauase they don't want to ifect the rest. They may have robbed the few remaining open stores to get money for the ticket out of NY.
Welcome to Fl. Now will you please self quarantine? I mean why not?
Just about everything ia closed anyway, and if you drive around, we'll stop that too.

[rbk]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

And what have the 'plane passengers been doing for 7/14 days before getting on the plane?

Not doing it on the plane.

[El Pinguino]

A majority of Australia's imported cases appear to have come by air from the US... and a majority of local cases seem to have been caught from people who had come from the US....

Didn't have to catch it on the plane.... probably caught it during their 7/14 days in an hotel at Aspen.....

Yachts in the S Pacific seem to be copping the same treatment as cruise liners....

[valhalla360]

Originally Posted by Paul L

You can't look at northern Italy or New York City and think this is a minor problem.

The reaction to the problem...100% agree. Shutting down the economy and locking people up...yes that's major problem. There is no debating it.

The actual disease...current numbers really are a drop in the ocean, even in the worst hit areas. The issue is where will it go from here and that's a huge unknown. Right now, we are guessing with a tiny fraction of the big picture.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

I am getting a bit pissed orf about the treatment of cruise liners, their passengers and their crews.

What is the difference between 2500 passengers arriving on a boat and 2500 people arriving on lets say a dozen 787s?

You have a point. I think it's because cruiseliners are few but BIG, there's a lot of people in'em, and because of close quarters there's so much opportunity for so many to become ill.

When a cruiseliner with confirmed cases comes to port... that's a huge load who all have to be examined, tested, treated if ill, and quarantined/fed/entertained for two weeks in any case. A big ask if it's a small port.

I totally agree that too many infected people have been able to slip in via flights. Sloppy.

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

I am getting a bit pissed orf about the treatment of cruise liners, their passengers and their crews.

What is the difference between 2500 passengers arriving on a boat and 2500 people arriving on lets say a dozen 787s?
Do they park the 'planes at the end of the runway and refuse to let the people off?
No...
They just release the 'plane passengers into the community on a 'trust' basis....

and how many then behave like Mr and Mrs Lombard* ?

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...26-p54eac.html

*Lombard ... Lots Of Money But A Real Dickhead.

Maybe the plane passengers have farked it up for the ships passengers!

But certainly there has to be a greater risk from a cruise ship.

Consider 2500 passengers living and partying cheek by jowl for 2 weeks compared to 200 or 300 passengers sitting reasonably quietly for 12 to 24 hours coming from perhaps 12 different originating airports.

Mind you, the debacle at Sydney airport yesterday was shameful but I see potato head pushing the blame elsewhere.

In the good old days, AQIS was clearly responsible for federal border control heath and those guys had far more power than any other federal or state department. AQIS could order anyone (police and military included) off (or on) any plane or ship until they were satisfied it didn't pose a health risk to people, animals or agriculture. Now it is all rolled into one, everyone is too busy using their pointing fingers than doing the job. OK rant over