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[fivecapes]

Then why isn't there a travel ban on S. Korea?

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[Paul L]

Originally Posted by AKA-None

I don’t understand that last point. Why everyone but the uk?

The Euro ban excludes more than just the UK.

The U.S. government proclamation initiating the ban targets 26 European countries that comprise a visa-free travel zone known as the Schengen Area.

The United Kingdom, which is home to Trump Turnberry and Trump International Golf Links, and Ireland, which is home to another Trump-branded hotel and golf course at Doonbeg, do not participate in the Schengen Area. Bulgaria, Croatia and Romania are also not part of the Schengen Area. All three of the resorts are struggling financially.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...resorts-126808

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by fivecapes

Then why isn't there a travel ban on S. Korea?

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I think that is a good question.

My guess is it is more a strategic decision with the number of US servicemen in South Korea.

The nice Korean Family that are renting my house in Subic are from the area hardest hit in Korea. They update me on how their families in Korea are almost prisoners in their homes..... But I hear that new case rate is falling, so isolation seems to work.

Philippines Government update, just announced today .... that:
LAND, DOMESTIC, AIR AND DOMESTIC SEA TRAVEL TO AND FROM METRO MANILA WILL BE SUSPENDED IN 48 HRS.

Obviously that will be reviewed after a week or so but We are the lucky ones who can self isolate at anchor with provisions for a while....

Presently stocking up for 3 months

[fivecapes]

The travel ban does not apply to US citizens and immediate family, so military presence not a factor.

Germany has more military and civilian support personnel than S Korea anyway.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by fivecapes

The travel ban does not apply to US citizens and immediate family, so military presence not a factor ...

Indeed.

Read the actual Presidential Proclamation:
Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Certain Additional Persons Who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus
➥ https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...l-coronavirus/


Including:
... Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry.

(a) Section 1 of this proclamation shall not apply to:

(i) any lawful permanent resident of the United States;

(ii) any alien who is the spouse of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident;

(iii) any alien who is the parent or legal guardian of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, provided that the U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident is unmarried and under the age of 21;

(iv) any alien who is the sibling of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, provided that both are unmarried and under the age of 21;

(v) any alien who is the child, foster child, or ward of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, or who is a prospective adoptee seeking to enter the United States pursuant to the IR-4 or IH-4 visa classifications;
Presidential Proclamation
Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Certain Additional Persons Who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus ...

And much more.

And:
Homeland Security Acting Secretary Chad F. Wolf’s Statement on Presidential Proclamation To Protect the Homeland from Travel-Related Coronavirus Spread
March 11, 2020 —
“Today President Donald J. Trump signed a Presidential Proclamation, which suspends the entry of most foreign nationals who have been in certain European countries at any point during the 14 days prior to their scheduled arrival to the United States. These countries, known as the Schengen Area, include: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland. This does not apply to legal permanent residents, (generally) immediate family members of U.S. citizens, and other individuals who are identified in the proclamation...”
➥ https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/...l-proclamation

[WSMFP]

This is a very interesting podcast discussion with an infectious disease expert.

Joe Rogan (Podcast Site)

[Woodland Hills]

Originally Posted by fivecapes

Then why isn't there a travel ban on S. Korea?

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Why isn’t S. Korea and the rest of the world banning travel from the US? We are the only country in the developed world that has no functioning test program and thus no idea how widespread the virus is.

[Woodland Hills]

Why isn’t the US doing mass fever screening via laser thermometers? You can buy them in the hardware store........ It is the first line of defense: if you have a fever you are sent to a parking lot clinic to be screened by an MD and possibly given a test. This is part of the Chinese and Korean model that has shown effectiveness in slowing the rate of growth.

[letsgetsailing3]

Originally Posted by Woodland Hills

Why isn’t S. Korea and the rest of the world banning travel from the US? We are the only country in the developed world that has no functioning test program and thus no idea how widespread the virus is.

Because South Korea is among the world's worst affected countries, with more than 7,800 people infected, and more than 60 deaths.

Their problem is worse than ours, even though people in the U.S. are a lot more panicked.

We naturally have a lot more social distance. Even moreso right now. Our biggest problem is people crowding Walmart, looking for hand sanitizer.

I think you could argue that South Korea is a model for testing, though. They've handled that brilliantly.

[Woodland Hills]

Originally Posted by letsgetsailing3

Because South Korea is among the world's worst affected countries, with more than 7,800 people infected, and more than 60 deaths.

Their problem is worse than ours, even though people in the U.S. are a lot more panicked.

We naturally have a lot more social distance. Even moreso right now. Our biggest problem is people crowding Walmart, looking for hand sanitizer.

I think you could argue that South Korea is a model for testing, though. They've handled that brilliantly.

I would submit that it is the US that is the world’s worst affected country. We just don’t see it yet since we aren’t testing and are in the early stages of an exponential growth curve. Wait two weeks and remember this post. We are two weeks behind Italy: they had 159 cases then and now have 12,000. The same will happen here except we won’t know if we can’t fix the testing failure.

[Subsets]

I contacted Turtle Cove Marina (649-941-3781) today in Turks & Caicos to clarify whether we could enter. I was passed to an immigration official. She said they would not admit boats from any country with active coronavirus cases. We were to be traveling today from the Dominican Republic. She was very clear that we would not be admitted.

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[Montanan]

Updated at 2:10 p.m. March 12, 2020 from the National Public Radio.
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/12/81493...el-from-europe

President Trump announced a 30-day ban on travel from several European nations starting at midnight Friday in a bid to rein in the spread of the coronavirus. Here's a look at what that means and who will be affected:

Who's affected

According to a statement released by Chad Wolf, the acting Homeland Security secretary, the restrictions apply to "foreign nationals" who have been in any of the Schengen nations, 26 European countries with open-border agreements, in the past 14 days prior to their scheduled arrival in the U.S.

The nations are: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland.

Foreign citizens who have traveled to those nations will not be allowed into the U.S.

I am an American citizen, but I traveled to Europe in the past two weeks. Can I return to the United States?

In remarks Thursday, Trump said Americans returning from Europe would be tested for the virus — and would not be allowed into the country if they have the virus.

"We're not putting them on planes if it shows positive," he said. Americans will be quarantined upon arrival, he said.

"You have to have separation, or this thing takes longer to go away," he said.

According to Wolf's statement, U.S. passengers who have been in the affected European nations will be required to travel through "select airports where the U.S. has implemented enhanced screening procedures." Vice President Pence said Thursday there are 13 such airports and added that those travelers who return to the U.S. from the EU will be asked to self-quarantine for 14 days.

Pence did not list the airports, but Wolf, in his statement late Wednesday, said DHS will list them in the next 48 hours.

The administration previously banned travel from China, and during that time travelers from China were flown to airports in Atlanta, Dallas-Fort Worth, Detroit, Newark, N.J., Honolulu, New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, Washington, D.C.

I am from one of these countries but have a green card. Can I return to the U.S.?

Yes, according to the DHS: Legal permanent residents, along with (generally) immediate family members of U.S. citizens are exempt from the restrictions announced Wednesday.

What about citizens of the United Kingdom?

Citizens from the U.K., which includes England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, are exempt from this order.

I am an American citizen and have travel planned to Europe. Can I still go?

That depends. Many airlines have canceled flights, and the U.S. State Department issued a Global Travel Advisory that says in part, "The Department of State advises U.S. citizens to reconsider travel abroad due to the global impact of COVID-19."

How long will the ban be in effect?

The ban takes effect at 11:59 ET on March 13, according to a White House proclamation. It will last "until terminated by the President," according to the proclamation. Trump said Wednesday night the restrictions would be in place for 30 days.

[GordMay]

Greetings and belated welcome aboard the CF, Subsets.

[Montanan]

Link to country by country updates on the spread of coronavirus in all of Latin America and the Caribbean:

Where Is the Coronavirus in Latin America?



https://www.as-coa.org/articles/wher...-latin-america