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Steve DAntonio · 21-01-2021, 05:16

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Originally Posted by goboatingnow

theres so much wrong with this post that I can't don't even know where to start
a collection of half truths , hearsay and mis information bubbled in a furnace of political bias

as a start , heres a comment from a reviewed study in eh Lancet , one of the most respected in its field

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However, multiple high-quality studies subsequently showed no benefit of hydroxychloroquine use as post-exposure prophylaxis3 or as a COVID-19 treatment.4, 5
......
Additionally, no difference was seen in non-COVID-19 mortality associated with hydroxychloroquine use.
.......
These findings are not surprising given the mounting body of literature suggesting no clinical benefit for hydroxychloroquine use against COVID-19."

SOurce https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...390-8/fulltext

It is true, there's no shortage of misinformation/disinformation to go around, and it seems few are immune, even "One of the most respected in the field..." just saying...

"June 4, 2020 - The online medical journal The Lancet has apologized to readers after retracting a study that said the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine did not help to curb COVID-19 and might cause death in patients." https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...oroquine-study

**GordMay** · 21-01-2021, 05:42

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Originally Posted by Steve DAntonio

It is true, there's no shortage of misinformation/disinformation to go around, and it seems few are immune, even "One of the most respected in the field..." just saying...

"June 4, 2020 - The online medical journal The Lancet has apologized to readers after retracting a study that said the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine did not help to curb COVID-19 and might cause death in patients." https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...oroquine-study

RETRACTIONS ➥ https://coronacentral.ai/retractions
Re Hydroxychloroquine for treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (Covid-19)
Articles that have been withdrawn by the authors or the journal (Published and Preprint Papers)

22 May 2020 0- The Lancet
RETRACTED: Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: a multinational registry analysis.
➥ https://coronacentral.ai/doc/doi/10....736(20)31180-6
➥ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext

9 Jun 2020 - The Lancet
Retraction-Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: a multinational registry analysis.
➥ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...324-6/fulltext

22 May 2020 - Lancet (London, England)
Chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19: why might they be hazardous?
➥ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...174-0/fulltext

13 Jul 2020 - The Lancet
Retraction and republication: cardiac toxicity of hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19.
➥ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...528-2/fulltext

DreaminFred · 21-01-2021, 05:59

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Originally Posted by davil

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Your Liberty To Swing Your Fist Ends Just Where My Nose Begins

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein

Einstein thought there was only one galaxy. Our understanding about the universe continues to grow while human stupidity can be voted out (sorry). Meanwhile I’m shopping for my next boat (sailing content).

Dreamin’

S/V Illusion · 21-01-2021, 06:24

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Originally Posted by goboatingnow

theres so much wrong with this post that I can't don't even know where to start
a collection of half truths , hearsay and mis information bubbled in a furnace of political bias

as a start , heres a comment from a reviewed study in eh Lancet , one of the most respected in its field

"

However, multiple high-quality studies subsequently showed no benefit of hydroxychloroquine use as post-exposure prophylaxis3 or as a COVID-19 treatment.4, 5
......
Additionally, no difference was seen in non-COVID-19 mortality associated with hydroxychloroquine use.
.......
These findings are not surprising given the mounting body of literature suggesting no clinical benefit for hydroxychloroquine use against COVID-19."

SOurce https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...390-8/fulltext

And I can, like you just did, cherry pick other studies showing the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. Start there!

UFO · 21-01-2021, 06:34

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Originally Posted by S/V Illusion

And I can, like you just did, cherry pick other studies showing the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. Start there!

https://www.francesoir.fr/societe-sa...efutable-proof

**GordMay** · 21-01-2021, 06:43

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Originally Posted by S/V Illusion

And I can, like you just did, cherry pick other studies showing the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. Start there!

You might be able to, but you don't, hence you're just making unsupported statements (opinions).

Lake-Effect · 21-01-2021, 10:17

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Originally Posted by Steve DAntonio

It is true, there's no shortage of misinformation/disinformation to go around, and it seems few are immune, even "One of the most respected in the field..." just saying...

"June 4, 2020 - The online medical journal The Lancet has apologized to readers after retracting a study that said the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine did not help to curb COVID-19 and might cause death in patients." https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...oroquine-study

Researchers had been trusting the data from Surgisphere, which claimed to be a one-stop shop for up-to-date hospital data. But when publications like the Lancet started looking deeper into it, the data started looking suspect, and Surgisphere wouldn't permit more checking.
More here.

It's one thing to do sloppy science; it's another to be performing good science, but being shafted by your primary supplier of data.

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Originally Posted by S/V Illusion

And I can, like you just did, cherry pick other studies showing the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. Start there!

I'd bet you won't find any recent studies that show significant therapeutic benefit for HCQ against covid. There was some hint in the spring that it might be effective, but more thorough studies and trials showed that it wasn't. Still waiting for more reports from the studies on ivermectin.

**GordMay** · 26-01-2021, 04:35

MDH lab testing confirms nation’s first known COVID-19 case associated with Brazil "P.1" variant
The Minnesota Department of Health confirmed the case on Monday, the same day President Joe Biden extended coronavirus restrictions barring most non-US citizens who recently travelled to Brazil, South Africa and several European countries from entering the US.
➥ https://www.health.state.mn.us/news/...vid012521.html

davil · 26-01-2021, 08:39

looks like the post holidays surge starts to ease
may be?????

https://covidusa.net/?autorefresh=1

Davy J · 26-01-2021, 08:52

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Originally Posted by GordMay

the same day President Joe Biden extended coronavirus restrictions barring most non-US citizens who recently travelled to Brazil, South Africa and several European countries from entering the US.

I was told by the leaders of a certain party that these actions are xenophobic........

S/V Illusion · 26-01-2021, 09:34

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Originally Posted by GordMay

You might be able to, but you don't, hence you're just making unsupported statements (opinions).

True. I didn’t bother, however, that doesn’t support your equally unsupported implication im unable to... life is too short arguing with closed minds.

Lake-Effect · 26-01-2021, 11:11

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Originally Posted by S/V Illusion

True. I didn’t bother, however, that doesn’t support your equally unsupported implication im unable to... life is too short arguing with closed minds.

Yet here you are...