Covid vaccination status for CF members

[UFO]

So I was doing some research on VAERS for a 2 year which died from the vaccine:


See the attached image.



https://vaers.hhs.gov/



I downloaded the data as an excel spreadsheet and put in the FIND TERM "Death" Its quite an eye opener!


Knock yourself out and do some research!

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 29, 2021

CONTACT:
Press@FLCCC.net

WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), a group of highly published, world-renowned critical care physicians and scholars, today praised the recent updated guidance from the All India Institute of Medical Science (AIIMS) to include ivermectin in its guidelines for the treatment of COVID-19.

As COVID-19 cases in India continue to increase at an alarming rate this guidance is a welcome development for the country’s efforts to treat those in need. We encourage all medical authorities, hospitals, physicians and medical professionals in India to follow the latest guidance from AIIMS.

“We are grateful that the AIIMS has followed the science on ivermectin in creating the new guidelines,” said Pierre Kory, M.P.A., MD, president and chief medical officer of the FLCCC. “I expect that if implemented, we will begin to see a decline in cases as we have seen in other regions when there is widespread use of ivermectin.”https://covid19criticalcare.com/vide...dical-science/

An interesting section from a Senate Testimony....

" Before proceeding, I want to bring attention to two critical deficits in our national treatment response that has made this hearing necessary in the first place. Besides the early interest and research into hydroxychloroquine, we can find no other significant efforts to research the use of any other already existing, safe, low-cost therapeutic agents. Seemingly the only research and treatment focus that we have observed on a national scale is with novel or high-cost pharmaceutically engineered products such as remdesivir, monoclonal antibodies, tocilizumab, with all such therapies costing thousands of dollars. This is consistent with conclusions drawn by a physician consulting to Congress about Covid-19 when she concluded, “There is a pervasive problem on the Hill with how we prove the value of a low cost treatment.” Another barrier has been the censorship of all of our attempts at disseminating critical scientific information on facebook and other social media with our pages repeatedly being blocked. Finally, we believe the lack of clinical experts on the existing task forces is further hindering progress on identifying effective therapeutics. We can identify almost no members with any similarities to the skill set, clinical knowledge base, and patient care experience to our group of expert clinicians. Existing members all seem to be either physician leaders of large health care organizations or have research backgrounds."
Pierre Koray.

Vested interests placed above the people.???

[GordMay]

Covid-19 Vaccine News:

A recent study [1] in The Lancet looked at more than 23,000 vaccinated healthcare workers in the United Kingdom from December to February and found the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was at least 70 per cent effective at preventing COVID-19 three weeks after the first dose.

Another Lancet study [2] looked at more than 1.3 million people in Scotland during the same time period and found the Pfizer shot was more than 90 per cent effective at preventing hospitalization due to COVID-19 four to five weeks after the initial dose. That study also analyzed the AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine in the same population and found it was 88 per cent effective at curbing hospital admissions from COVID-19.

A new preprint study [3] by Public Health England, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, found that three weeks after a single dose of either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccine, household transmission of the virus was reduced between 39 and 49 per cent.

A new study [4] from Imperial College London published in the journal Science Friday found that a single dose of the Pfizer vaccine may not generate an adequate immune response to protect against variants of concern, except for people who already had COVID-19. But that study was based on laboratory testing of blood samples from healthcare workers in the U.K. and it may not necessarily translate to the real world.

[1] “COVID-19 vaccine coverage in health-care workers in England and effectiveness of BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine against infection (SIREN): a prospective, multicentre, cohort study” ~ by Victoria Jane Hall et al
➥ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...790-X/fulltext

[2] “Interim findings from first-dose mass COVID-19 vaccination roll-out and COVID-19 hospital admissions in Scotland: a national prospective cohort study” ~ by Eleftheria Vasileiou et al;
➥ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...677-2/fulltext

[3] “Impact of vaccination on household transmission of SARS-COV-2 in England” ~ by Ross J Harris et al
➥ https://khub.net/documents/135939561...=1619601878136

[4] “Prior SARS-CoV-2 infection rescues B and T cell responses to variants after first vaccine dose” ~ by Catherine J. Reynolds et al
➥ https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...cience.abh1282

[Paul L]

Originally Posted by UFO

So I was doing some research on VAERS for a 2 year which died from the vaccine:


See the attached image.



https://vaers.hhs.gov/



I downloaded the data as an excel spreadsheet and put in the FIND TERM "Death" Its quite an eye opener!


Knock yourself out and do some research!

At least be a little curious about the "data" you push. And maybe a little more honest, as this had already been hyped on social media, so I doubt you discovered it on your data searches.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tw...a-die-vaccine/

Did a 2-Year-Old in Virginia Die After Getting COVID-19 Vaccination?
The claim is based solely on a dubious report from the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System, a database that anyone can submit reports to that is frequently abused by anti-vaccine activists.
Claim
A 2-year-old baby girl in Virginia died after being given the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine.
Rating
Unproven
Unproven
About this rating
Context
Despite claims to the contrary on social media, no clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines for 2-year-olds existed at the time the vaccine was alleged to have been administered to the child. The only evidence in support of this claim is a report submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS), but anyone can submit to this system.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by jtsailjt

Yeah, illegal immigrants ...

This is drifting too far away from the thread, but illegal immigration could be stopped cold overnight if it became illegal to hire them. Fine the companies; the money collected would more than cover the costs of border policing and investigating. In the internet age, it's super-easy to validate IDs. But this isn't happening, is it? Ask yourself why. Answer is - the sweet sweet cost savings with illegal labour.

[the 50s]Now, those living conditions would be considered unacceptable for even those below the poverty level. So when you make a statement about the inability of people to survive on a single income now versus in the 1950’s you’re not comparing apples to apples.

That of course avoids the whole conversation of why wages haven't kept pace with GDP, and most of the benefits of increased productivity accrue mostly to the rich.

And... progress! Our advances were supposed to confer benefits upon all - better health care, shorter work week, etc. Where's my personal jet-pack?!? instead, one has to work longer hours at 2 jobs to stay on the same ladder rung. The benefits of productivity aren't flowing downhill.

We’re NOT talking about an alternative to “letting it rip” and most of this money will contribute nothing to do with ridding us of Covid or saving lives.

IF this money were primarily being used to ease the pain of the pandemic I’d agree with you that now is no time to worry about debt, but most of this increased debt will do nothing towards ridding us of Covid or even easing the financial pain of the pandemic.

Not true. The aid and stimulus money is mainly to offset damage and hardships caused by the COVID measures: restrictions, lockdowns, closures. And to ensure the fastest possible economic recovery.

You seem determined to tap dance around the reality that somebody in the future is actually going to have to pay for this spending we are about to indulge ourselves in.

We got through the Depression, through several wars, the crash of 2008. We can get through this too. The economic history is there for all to read.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by boatman61

An interesting section from a Senate Testimony.......

Vested interests placed above the people.???

That's just one country. If Ivermectin was such a sure-fire treatment, India and Brazil would be bathing in it and global COVID would be a page 10 story.

[Greg K]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

We will indeed see how well it works, won't we? A trial with 1.2 billion participants...

No need to wait, sufficient evidence of Ivermectin's efficacy already exists. Don't you guys even looks at each other's links?

Courtesy of Gord:

“Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19" ~ by Pierre Kory et al
➥ https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Ivermectin-in-the-prophylaxis-and-treatment-of-COVID-19.pdf

[Paul L]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

This is drifting too far away from the thread, but illegal immigration could be stopped cold overnight if it became illegal to hire them. Fine the companies; the money collected would more than cover the costs of border policing and investigating. In the internet age, it's super-easy to validate IDs. But this isn't happening, is it? Ask yourself why. Answer is - the sweet sweet cost savings with illegal labour.
That of course avoids the whole conversation of why wages haven't kept pace with GDP, and most of the benefits of increased productivity accrue mostly to the rich.

And... progress! Our advances were supposed to confer benefits upon all - better health care, shorter work week, etc. Where's my personal jet-pack?!? instead, one has to work longer hours at 2 jobs to stay on the same ladder rung. The benefits of productivity aren't flowing downhill.

Not true. The aid and stimulus money is mainly to offset damage and hardships caused by the COVID measures: restrictions, lockdowns, closures. And to ensure the fastest possible economic recovery.

We got through the Depression, through several wars, the crash of 2008. We can get through this too. The economic history is there for all to read.

It is already illegal to hire illegal immigrants in the US. It just isn't enforced because the businesses are owned by voters.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

That's just one country. If Ivermectin was such a sure-fire treatment, India and Brazil would be bathing in it and global COVID would be a page 10 story.

True.. but it is the country that controls Social Media, to a very large extent the domestic Big Pharma push and exerts enormous behind the scenes financial arm twisting powers.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

This shows your total ignorance to science and just paroting the vaccination propaganda. An immune system that knows cars will recognise most cars, it sees 4 wheels, engine, a stearing wheel, suspensions, brakes.

Oh, that's adorable. What a cute story! Gotta link? Or is it a big book with cardboard pages and lots of pictures of happy animals?

In the real world, you can identify a car model just by it's builder's plate. Or a human by one fingerprint. No benefit to using an entire database of identification characteristics. You only need one (or a few) unique and reliable characteristic(s) to successfully identify the target virus.

I've already shown you how well the vaccines are protecting against variants as well. Currently not perfect, but better and much more predictable than immunity acquired through illness. And much, much safer.

Your approach is so far about as scientific as my kindergarten teacher. Please stop.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Paul L

It is already illegal to hire illegal immigrants in the US. It just isn't enforced because the businesses are owned by voters.

... there's your answer. The US can't afford to kick out illegal workers. But this makes it even more heinous and hypocritical to be demonizing and persecuting illegals as a campaign issue, right?

[Greg K]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

I've already shown you how well the vaccines are protecting against variants as well. Currently not perfect, but better and much more predictable than immunity acquired through illness. .

I guess you just keep making it up as you go along. But the science doesn't seem to agree with you about the superiority of the vaccine to the natural immune system.

Again, courtesy of Gord ( who looks to be on a roll now with links):

“Prior SARS-CoV-2 infection rescues B and T cell responses to variants after first vaccine dose” ~ by Catherine J. Reynolds et al
➥ https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/04/29/science.abh1282

Takeaway: Those with natural immunity from prior infection seem to do better against variants than the vaccinated alone.

" We analyzed T and B cell responses after first dose vaccination with the Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 in healthcare workers (HCW) followed longitudinally, with or without prior Wuhan-Hu-1 SARS-CoV-2 infection. After one dose, individuals with prior infection showed enhanced T cell immunity, antibody secreting memory B cell response to spike and neutralizing antibodies effective against B.1.1.7 and B.1.351. By comparison, HCW receiving one vaccine dose without prior infection showed reduced immunity against variants. B.1.1.7 and B.1.351 spike mutations resulted in increased, abrogated or unchanged T cell responses depending on human leukocyte antigen (HLA) polymorphisms."

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by boatman61

True.. but it is the country that controls Social Media, to a very large extent the domestic Big Pharma push and exerts enormous behind the scenes financial arm twisting powers.

The situation in India, Brazil and similar places is beyond desperate. They're trying everything and anything to help the victims. Even the black market.

So if something as cheap and plentiful as ivermectin worked as well as certain people claim it does... they'd be on it, despite "social media", and we would know about it. Few Drs would reject the use of something with that much benefit.

If you scan some of the studies, you will see that things like HCQ and ivermectin were tried in "Hail Mary" combinations with other drugs, and the success rates were not that far off of other treatments like remdisavir, or other basic care. They don't really know what worked.

If ivermectin was a slam-dunk (and I really, really wish there was a sure-fire treatment)... we'd know by now.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Greg K

I guess you just keep making it up as you go along. But the science doesn't seem to agree with you about the superiority of the vaccine to the natural immune system.

Again, courtesy of Gord ( who looks to be on a roll now with links):

“Prior SARS-CoV-2 infection rescues B and T cell responses to variants after first vaccine dose” ~ by Catherine J. Reynolds et al
➥ https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/04/29/science.abh1282

Takeaway: Those with natural immunity from prior infection seem to do better against variants than the vaccinated alone.

That study shows that people with prior COVID AND their first vaccination... have a stronger immune response, compared to just the first shot alone. Well... duh. Have you stopped to ponder why many of the vaccinations require TWO doses, spaced out?

I don't think I'm the one making stuff up.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

The situation in India, Brazil and similar places is beyond desperate. They're trying everything and anything to help the victims. Even the black market.

So if something as cheap and plentiful as ivermectin worked as well as certain people claim it does... they'd be on it, despite "social media" and we would know about it.

If you scan some of the studies, you will see that things like HCQ and ivermectin were tried in "Hail Mary" combinations with other drugs, and the success rates were not that far off of other treatments like remdisavir, or other basic care.

If ivermectin was a slam-dunk (and I really, really wish there was a sure-fire treatment)... we'd know by now.

Ahh.. Remdisavir, the famous Trump cure all at $520/dose.. or $4580 for the 5 day course..
Meanwhile India is now dishing out a home treatment kit of Invermectin, Zinc etc costing $3.00.. widely used in densely populated Bangladesh which is I believe 128th in the mortality list, meanwhile Invermectin prices in the USA have rocketed to $79/20 x 3mg pack.