Covid vaccination status for CF members

[HeinSdL]

Over the last 12+ months reports have been common such as "XX people died of the Coronavirus in the last 24 hours, 76% of whom had serious pre-existing conditions." This in itself is already highly questionable, in line with discussions held on CF elsewhere about for example the methodology in the UK whereby anyone who is tested positive covid in the 28 days proceeding a death (which can be of any cause) is considered a covid fatality.

Add to this zero excess deaths in The Netherlands so far this year and zero deaths due to the seasonal flu over the winter period (this never happens) one must surely at least question, what is going on here? Is covid now the only cause of death?

And then I heard the following on the national news the other day about a man who had died recently with a positive covid test while having been fully vaccinated. He also had existing problems with his lungs and the newsreader concluded: "It is not clear yet whether the individual died of the corona virus or whether it was due to his pre-existing condition." I was dumb struck: pre vaccine it was always covid (on which all the policy actions were based, absolutely DESTROYING the lives of the young people), post vaccine it's now a case of well the guy was already quite sick to begin with.

It will be a long while before I get the vaccine. And to those who are OK with it: you will return for your booster every 6 months? Just to keep your covid passport up to date? To toe the line of whatever it is we collectively are expected to do? A colleague of mine said to me the other day, This is the price of participating in society. If that is indeed the price, the price is too high. And not just because I have some idea of the long term risks but also because of the highly unethical path we are being guided into. And please, I am not an anti vaxxer nor a conspiracy guy: all this anti vaxxer and conspiracy nonsense is not needed to still find it all very odd.

As a society we need unity, not conformity.

[dannc]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

Immediate Use of Ivermectin Medicine Globally Can End COVID-19 Pandemic https://weather.com/en-IN/india/coro...id-19-pandemic

Dr. Campbell on YouTube just had a video on an Indian study,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYv30g7TKVM

which looked at effectiveness and cost.

From memory, treatment for three people cost a US penny. Yes, three people for a US penny. Effectiveness was 85% or there abouts. Not sure how long the affect lasts, but if the effect is not long term, which the vaccines may not be either, at least for populations being hard hit by the WuFlu, this would be a stop gap method along with vitamin D.

One does have to wonder at the active campaign against these simple, available, and cheap, if not free, solutions.

Later,
Dan

[Montanan]

COVID-19 deaths in India could potentially reach a “staggering” one million by August 1 this year, an editorial published in medical journal the Lancet said citing an estimate by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation – an independent global health research centre of the University of Washington.

“The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation estimates that India will see a staggering 1 million deaths from COVID-19 by Aug 1. If that outcome were to happen, [Prime Minister Narendra] Modi’s government would be responsible for presiding over a self-inflicted national catastrophe,”

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...052-7/fulltext

ndia’s health ministry reported on Sunday 4,092 fatalities over the past 24 hours, taking the overall death toll to 242,362. New cases rose by 403,738, just shy of the record

[Don C L]

This thread has been closed for its frequent veering into politics. If you want to discuss CF members and their vaccination experiences, that is okay; start a new thread.