Covid vaccine after having covid

[GreenWave]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

Once again, Kids are not dying from Covid! The chances are miniscule. They have everything to lose and nothing to gain from this!

Well, except they are a petri dish that is giving it to many others. I invite you to go hang out and a birthday party amongst twenty 9 yr olds...

[sagablu]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

Thank you for sharing this, indeed very interesting talk, that shows me again, I learned something real in school and later in life, that is solid and still valid.

All the propaganda and disinformation of the media and in this thread to blind people and bully them to get the shot are quite well debunked by what is comming out step by step.

MRNA and Vector vaccines are experimental GEN therapy, as clearly communicated, this is one big experiment on humanity with uncertain results for the future, it affects reproduction as it targets femail ovaries as sideeffect. Not conspiracy theories, science. We simply don't know, and it is an individual personal decision what risk to take or don't take.

May not fit your agenda.

Should be labeled with a warning, like "may contain scientific content and uncomfortable truth for vaccinated people".

No matter how many times you say gene therapy, it still isn't.. to have gene therapy you need to start with ( drumroll please) a gene. There are no genes in the MRNA vaccine, and neither science nor the body can synthesize a gene from MRNA.

It's already pretty easy to dismiss all of your poorly sought out arguments, why make it even easier?

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by sagablu

No matter how many times you say gene therapy, it still isn't.. to have gene therapy you need to start with ( drumroll please) a gene. There are no genes in the MRNA vaccine, and neither science nor the body can synthesize a gene from MRNA.

It's already pretty easy to dismiss all of your poorly sought out arguments, why make it even easier?

RNA is a sequence of..... drumroll.... GENES.
A GENE is a sequence of information stored in a polymere structure of sugar molecules and amino-acids, Rhibonucleinacid (RNA) or the detoxifyed version Desoxyrhibonucleinacid (DNA) . A sequence of those acids in the chain of the RNA or DNA is called a GENE. They are GENEs and synthesize aminoacids .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene

[Thumbs Up]

Originally Posted by sagablu

No matter how many times you say gene therapy, it still isn't.. to have gene therapy you need to start with ( drumroll please) a gene. There are no genes in the MRNA vaccine, and neither science nor the body can synthesize a gene from MRNA.

It's already pretty easy to dismiss all of your poorly sought out arguments, why make it even easier?

The inventor of mRNA vaccines says that it is gene therapy and that arguing about whether it is or not is like arguing about how to pronounce the word tomato.

[Thumbs Up]

Originally Posted by GreenWave

Well, except they are a petri dish that is giving it to many others. I invite you to go hang out and a birthday party amongst twenty 9 yr olds...

So we are supposed to inject all of the children with toxic unapproved experimental gene therapy that may render them sterile? The vaccine was supposed to protect the elderly. Now they want to give it to babies. Are you OK with that? I'm not!

[sagablu]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

RNA is a sequence of..... drumroll.... GENES.
A GENE is a sequence of information stored in a polymere structure of sugar molecules and amino-acids, Rhibonucleinacid (RNA) or the detoxifyed version Desoxyrhibonucleinacid (DNA) . A sequence of those acids in the chain of the RNA or DNA is called a GENE. They are GENEs and synthesize aminoacids .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene

You can who's all the technical words you want and you still wrong. Messenger RNA is what it sounds like, simple terms a message. It is not and cannot be a gene that I can't express function. I think you already know this but it's against your hollow arguments so you can't admit it.

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by sagablu

You can who's all the technical words you want and you still wrong. Messenger RNA is what it sounds like, simple terms a message. It is not and cannot be a gene that I can't express function. I think you already know this but it's against your hollow arguments so you can't admit it.

This is really a stupid statement. Let me translate it for you in computer terms, maybe you understand it then better.

A harddisk with a file system is the DNA, the files on it are genes, a USB stick or a removable harddrive is RNA, it can contain the same files (genes),

Sticking it to a computer (cell) you can process the information. RNA and DNA only purpose is to store and transport the GENES. They are just a long or short sequence (like data in a file) of stored information, there is no RNA without GENES, because it is made of GENES, as the DNA is too. A sequence of connected genes is either called RNA or DNA depending of some oxygen molecules on the suger, and one small difference of one aminoacid. DNA and RNA are in fact very similar and they interact with each other within the cell.

The only difference is T in DNA is U in RNA, and they can be copied both ways, as you can copy information from your thumb usb stick to your harddisk and back, this is done by transcriptases and reverse-transcriptases.

Just learn your stuff before making stupid claims.

[Lake-Effect]

Huh. We just passed a full moon, maybe that explains it.


mRNA vaccines aren't gene therapy because they don't mess with your genes.

[Thumbs Up]

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL2N2O01XP
This misinformation article on Reuters. The article insists that:

there is no scientific evidence available that suggests spike proteins created in our bodies from the COVID-19 vaccines are toxic or damaging our organs

but strangely links to this video where they are talking about the scientific evidence:

The 15-minute video shows three individuals discussing the COVID-19 vaccine and the spike protein is repeatedly described as “very dangerous” and “cytotoxic.”

[flyingfin]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

If somebody has had a verifiable covid infection (with symptoms), why on earth they would choose to get one of these so-called vaccines escapes me. I know that we have multibillion dollar ad campaigns in favor of everybody getting the shots, but seriously? You have natural immunity! Please link me to either the science, or the argument that would convince you to get the shots after having the virus. I don't get it.

'Caus you never know that you had it for sure the first time, remember all testing involves false positives,,and false negatives, and incompetence at the lab.

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Huh. We just passed a full moon, maybe that explains it.


mRNA vaccines aren't gene therapy because they don't mess with your genes.

You introduce foreign GENES by Virus Vectors or mRNA into your cell altering her purpose, so it IS GEN therapy.

The produced harmful spike proteins by this foreign genetic code reprogram your immune system by supressing inherited immune responses and amplifying other immune responses, so you may be more vulnerable to old diseases and overreact on the novel covid crap.

You simply don't know the side effects yet, if and how much may be reverse transcribed into your genome, but even if not it is GEN therapy as you use GENES to mislead / instruct your body to produce stuff he would not otherwise.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

You introduce foreign GENES by Virus Vectors or mRNA into your cell altering her purpose, so it IS GEN therapy.

Silly word games. mRNA vaccines do not mess with your genes, they don't change your DNA. The mRNA in the vaccines is a work order that says "make some of these spiky proteins". That's it.

And you might want to double-check who exactly has been "red-pilled".

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Silly word games. mRNA vaccines do not mess with your genes, they don't change your DNA. The mRNA in the vaccines is a work order that says "make some of these spiky proteins". That's it.

And you might want to double-check who exactly has been "red-pilled".

Well that is called framing. It makes people dizzy, and makes them GENE deniers and pseudo-scientists, claiming mRNA does not contain genes.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

Well that is called framing. It makes people dizzy, and makes them GENE deniers and pseudo-scientists, claiming mRNA does not contain genes.

I thought it made them CNN viewers..

[Shanachie]

Still driving by this thread occasionally, gawking at people with high school diplomas and liberal arts degrees thinking they can become experts in genetics and evolutionary biology by reading wikipedia and Fox News.


Really, get a clue.


Despite what Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson tell you, uneducated people can not surf the web and become smarter than scientists who have dedicated their lives to studying deeply complicated subjects.


Your posts are not showing how intelligent you are. Rather, you are showing your lack of understanding about a variety of topics (biology, genetics, statistics, to name a few ...) that are way over your heads.


Good luck with your foolishness. I just hope it doesn't cost you your life and the lives of your friends and family.