Covid vaccine after having covid

[Paul L]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated ~ AP

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren't vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day [now down to under 300] could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.

An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that "breakthrough" infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That's about 0.1 per cent.

And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8 per cent, or five deaths per day on average.

More ➥ https://apnews.com/article/coronavir...6e7354f5d5e187

The lower graph below shows the covid mortality distrbution by age and by vaccinated or not in the Seychelles. Pretty biased toward unvaccinated-not fully vaccinated not doing so well.

[Montanan]

Due to the large population of unvaccinated persons Covid will likely remain a leading cause of death in 2022. Unfortunately there is no cure or vaccine for Covidiotism.


"Recent modeling suggests the U.S will hit 1,000 deaths per day again in 2022, according to a professor of health metrics sciences at the University of Washington in Seattle."

And there will far more people who will become ill and / or are hospitalized due to COVID. Practically all of which could be easily prevented.

To put that number in perspective of other causes of death, in the United States In 2020, an estimated 1,806,590 new cases of cancer will be diagnosed in the United States and 606,520 people will die from the disease.

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"Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren't vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day—now down to under 300—could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.

An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that "breakthrough" infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That's about 0.1 percent. And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8 percent, or five deaths per day on average."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...?ocid=msedgntp

In my companies, once the vaccines are given non-emergency use authorization, vaccination will be required of employees and also of suppliers and customers that wish to have face to face engagements, or permission to be allowed on our company campuses and properties. The two exceptions being sincerely held religious beliefs or specific medical hazards, prior allergic reactions to ingredients of the vaccines, but those people may be required to work remotely, if such remote work can be reasonably accommodated but which will have implications as to their career advancements.

[sagablu]

Originally Posted by Wotname

Yeah but....

Reality is one thing but the data is another...

Mike, you should know it's all a conspiracy, the data is rigged; can't be trusted...looks where it comes from; hint, it comes from the deep state. There are nanoparticles inside the vaccine loaded with 6G neuroreceivers / transmitters.; It's RFG (radio frequency genes) if you like.

Once enough are fully vaccinated, those neuroreceivers will get switched ON - you know I'm right...More false data will be inserted DIRECTLY into your brain and you will simply BELIEVE the data - wilfully ignorant or not!

Maaate - it's a conspiracy and resistance is futile...you know I'm right.

Stay away from the jabbers...
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Maybe a is needed here (but it's no laughing matter ).

I reject your assertion that the virus contains 6G nano particles. I've been trying to log on to my Netflix account, and no matter how many times I imagine the username and password, it just doesn't work. Further I cannot figure out how to connect my other wireless devices to my cranial hotspot. 😆

[Mike OReilly]

As I said, reality doesn't care what any of us think or believe. There are these things called facts that will tell the tale, no matter how many conspiracy theories one chooses to listen to.

And the facts are quickly mounting, to no one's surprise. Infections and deaths are increasingly and overwhelmingly being concentrated in under-vaccinated areas. It's a sad consequence of all the misinformation spread by some -- including some here.

[Thumbs Up]

To count as a "breakthrough covid infection" (fully vaccinated but got covid), The CDC changed the criteria (different diagnosing criteria vaxxed vs unvaxxed). For the vaxxed to get covid now requires a PCR cycle count of less than 25 (35-40 for unvaxxed) and must be hospitalized or die.

Not all of the statistics are showing favorable results and it is also likely that the CDC has yet to release a lot of the adverse event reports (they are withholding the data).

Data from the UK found that 0.00636 percent of fully vaccinated Brits known to have contracted the virus died, which was six times higher than the 0.000957 percent of unvaccinated people who died after testing positive for the virus. Additionally, hospitalizations for those carrying the Indian variant are higher among the vaccinated, with 2 percent of 4,087 COVID positive and fully vaccinated individuals being admitted to a hospital. This compares with 1.48 percent of 35,521 COVID-positive individuals who were unvaccinated being admitted to hospital

https://trialsitenews.com/reducing-d...blic-interest/
https://assets.publishing.service.go...riefing_16.pdf
Risk vs Benefit analyses have not been provided for these experimental vaccines yet they are pushing hard to give it to children. One US state is allowed to coerce 12 year old children into getting it without parental consent. Some of you here just want to joke about it. It is not funny. I keep posting verifiable information while some of you insist that the news stories that you post (linking to opinions, not facts, not science) are practically the holy grail of truth, when in fact they are the misinformation. There are prominent, respected doctors and scientists coming forth publicly to denounce what is happening. It is now proven that the vaccine particles migrate to different organs and concentrate the most in the ovaries. It is also proven that the spike protein (manufactured by our cells with instructions from the gene vaccine) is in itself toxic, and does not stay tethered to the cell (as claimed). In light of these discoveries, the risks need to be disclosed and the risk vs benefit needs to be provided for different groups. If not, the public health agencies stand to lose all credibility.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

To count as a "breakthrough covid infection" (fully vaccinated but got covid), The CDC changed the criteria (different diagnosing criteria vaxxed vs unvaxxed)...

Source?

[CatNewBee]

https://odysee.com/@BretWeinstein:f/...n-three-easy:0

Original full interview was censored by YT. Worth watching.

[Thumbs Up]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Source?

I stated that the breakthrough infection PCR threshold was changed to 25. I was wrong, it was changed to 28. It is still 35-40 for the unvaccinated. For the CDC to investigate it as a breakthrough case they changed the criteria and now must result in hospitalization or death.

Clinical specimens for sequencing should have an RT-PCR Ct value ≤28.https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...estigation.pdf

As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal caseshttps://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ugh-cases.html

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

... the risks need to be disclosed and the risk vs benefit needs to be provided for different groups. If not, the public health agencies stand to lose all credibility.

..."provided"?

It's f'ing obvious already that the risk-benefit comparison is heavily in favour of vaccination, from both an individual and group perspective. The only experimentation going on is whether safe vaccines could be produced without requiring years of bureaucracy, and the answer is pretty clearly YES.

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

..."provided"?

It's f'ing obvious already that the risk-benefit comparison is heavily in favour of vaccination, from both an individual and group perspective. The only experimentation going on is whether safe vaccines could be produced without requiring years of bureaucracy, and the answer is pretty clearly YES.

Yes, if the benefit from the vaccine is "long covid" from the vaccine, brain fogging, tremble and motoric disfunctions, heart inflamatory and vessel clogging, possible reproduction issues for women, higher vulnerability to other diseases by a weakened immune system, blood and other types of cancer and possibly an early death - and the risk is maybe not having any covid, mild symptoms or a covid infection treated by known safe medicaments - absolutely.

Many regulators are meanwhile hesitant to recommend the vaccines for young people.

[Thumbs Up]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

..."provided"?

It's f'ing obvious already that the risk-benefit comparison is heavily in favour of vaccination, from both an individual and group perspective. The only experimentation going on is whether safe vaccines could be produced without requiring years of bureaucracy, and the answer is pretty clearly YES.

It is obvious because it has been framed that way by the public health agencies and the media (you probably know all about this LE)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing_(social_sciences)
They need it to be obvious because the science of it is standing on shaky ground. I see that everyone is sharing versions of that AP article that Mike O posted. Now it is being used as a reference. It is based on nothing. I debunked it in an earlier post. Is that the best that you guys can do?

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

Yes, if the benefit from the vaccine is "long covid" from the vaccine, brain fogging, tremble and motoric disfunctions, heart inflamatory and vessel clogging, possible reproduction issues for women, higher vulnerability to other diseases by a weakened immune system, blood and other types of cancer and possibly an early death - and the risk is maybe not having any covid, mild symptoms or a covid infection treated by known safe medicaments - absolutely.

Would you mind explaining to us how intra-muscular vaccines and the spike proteins they create, all of which are most often eliminated from recipients in a matter of a few weeks... will have long-term effects, if they didn't cause initial harm or adverse reactions?

Considering how many people have been vaccinated, could you tabulate for us the number of recipients who have actually experienced those listed long-term effects, and produce a risk profile from that, so that we can make an apples-to-apples comparison with the risk profile of COVID?

Thanks in advance.

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Would you mind explaining to us how intra-muscular vaccines and the spike proteins they create, all of which are most often eliminated from recipients in a matter of a few weeks... will have long-term effects, if they didn't cause initial harm or adverse reactions?

Considering how many people have been vaccinated, could you tabulate for us the number of recipients who have actually experienced those listed long-term effects, and produce a risk profile from that, so that we can make an apples-to-apples comparison with the risk profile of COVID?

Thanks in advance.

Watched the interview i posted?
Data for the EU is in the online oracle database, select your criteria... Easy to lookup the casualties by vaccine.

https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analytics/saw.dll?PortalPages

You can download and process the data in excel if you want to.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

Watched the interview i posted?
Data for the EU is in the online oracle database, select your criteria... Easy to lookup the casualties by vaccine.

https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analytics/saw.dll?PortalPages

You can download and process the data in excel if you want to.

Hey, it's your case to prove. And my life's too short to watch videos already flagged as misinformation. Again - where's the beef? Prove the case.

[donradcliffe]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

Data from the UK found that 0.00636 percent of fully vaccinated Brits known to have contracted the virus died, which was six times higher than the 0.000957 percent of unvaccinated people who died after testing positive for the virus. Additionally, hospitalizations for those carrying the Indian variant are higher among the vaccinated, with 2 percent of 4,087 COVID positive and fully vaccinated individuals being admitted to a hospital. This compares with 1.48 percent of 35,521 COVID-positive individuals who were unvaccinated being admitted to hospital.

Don't go quoting numbers in adult company without checking their validity. The number of unvaccinated people in the UK who have died from the virus is 128,066, out of 4,699,868 who tested positive. By my calculator that is 2.7 percent, not 0.000957 percent.