Covid vaccine after having covid

[Greg K]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Some of us, in this thread & others, appear to be Marxists:

Marx and Engels argued that the prevailing ideas of a particular society are formed by the ruling class, to express and justify their position.

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[Thumbs Up]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Show me ONE credible subject matter expert who has called the mRNA vaccines "gene therapy". This scare-mongering term is clear indication that you don't understand how these vaccines work.
"mob rule", "lackey", "permissible narrative" - all giveaways.

That argument is just semantics. Calling a spade a shovel. I posted this earlier. Here it is again.

both mRNA-based vaccines represent a unique case that is considered one of the most advanced and promising achievements in the field of pharmaceutical biotechnology and biopharmaceutical formulations. More than three decades of research effort on developing gene therapy solutions for many diseases could not convey many healthcare policymakers, pharmaceutical companies, funding agencies, medicine agencies, and drug administrations to adopt gene therapy avenues as highly potential approaches to transfer the therapeutic strategies into a new era. However, these mRNA vaccines, which have been developed and approved within a few months, signify a breakthrough in the field of gene therapy, which has battled to achieve ordinary acknowledgement due to a large number of skeptical and conservative scientists and other claimed safety and translational concerns. Although these two vaccines are not the first approved drugs utilizing genetic materials as active ingredients, they are believed to be a milestone in modern medical history that may forever change pharmaceutical approaches.https://www.nature.com/articles/s41435-021-00136-6

I had said at one point that they (yes they) would be using this pandemic as a springboard to usher in the new area of gene based medicine. This very recent article in Nature confirms it. They couldn't of planned it better.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by boatman61

And here we revert back to the stock North American 'Reds under the Bed' slur of the 1950's.
McCarthyism Live's...

If you're referring to me, and my most recent post, you should know that one of the labels that might apply to me might be Marxist. My [generally] leftist world-view was heavily influenced by by my youthful reading of Marx, and other commie/socialists.

[boatman61]

Personally I lean more towards Ghandi in my approach to the 'Clerisy'.

[Mike OReilly]

(Not sure if this was posted)

Not yet peer-reviewed study:

Most COVID-19 Infections and Hospitalizations are in Unvaccinated

Preliminary data from Cleveland Clinic suggests most people hospitalized for coronavirus aren’t fully vaccinated.

“From January first to around mid-April, we’ve had around 4,300 admissions to the hospital with COVID. Of those patients, 99% were not fully vaccinated,” said Eduardo Mireles, MD, Director of the Medical Intensive Care Unit.

In addition to showing the majority of COVID-19 hospital admissions were in people who had not received a full vaccine series, another set of data looking at hospital employees shows a similar trend.

Researchers looked at nearly 2,000 hospital workers who had contracted COVID-19. They studied infections in the four months after the vaccine was offered. Results show 99.7% of infections in this group occurred among those who were unvaccinated.

ADD: This theme is repeating itself in anecdotes all over the world. Just do a search for "hospitalization" AND "unvaccinated", and insert nation, and you'll find the stories.

• https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...ople-1.6058273

• https://globalnews.ca/video/7926779/...s-unvaccinated

• https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...say/ar-AAKw31I

These are anecdotes at this point. Credible research takes more time to do, but those will follow soon.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Personally I lean more towards Ghandi in my approach to the 'Clerisy'.

A great man, Ghandi; but his principle of ‘truth’ seems not to have made much impression on you, though it seems, to me, that his principle of non-violence, may have (IDK).

It’s my understanding that Gandhi believed that the concepts of possession, and private property, were sources of violence, and in contradiction with the Divine reality, that all wealth belongs to all people; sometimes described as "communism minus violence".

[boatman61]

One mans truth is another mans lie..

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by boatman61

One mans truth is another mans lie..

How very post-modern/Marxian.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

How very post-modern/Marxian.

Actually its a modern take on Thomas Whythorne's quote from 1576 'One mans meat is another mans poison'
But feel free with your labelling..

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by boatman61

But feel free with your labelling..

We're all just following in your fine labelling footsteps .

[Greg K]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

(Not sure if this was posted)

Not yet peer-reviewed study:

Most COVID-19 Infections and Hospitalizations are in Unvaccinated

ADD: This theme is repeating itself in anecdotes all over the world. Just do a search for "hospitalization" AND "unvaccinated", and insert nation, and you'll find the stories.

• https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...ople-1.6058273

• https://globalnews.ca/video/7926779/...s-unvaccinated

• https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...say/ar-AAKw31I

These are anecdotes at this point. Credible research takes more time to do, but those will follow soon.

Let's have a look at the fatalities ( of the dreaded Delta strain) instead, as the MSM fear mongering seems to be focused on that.



Data from UK. What does the table above tell you about the Delta strain compared to the others?

And what does the table below tell you about overall number of deaths from the Delta strain as well as the number of deaths of the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated? Data from UK.



And here's a humorous and illuminating article from a former NHS Doc regarding how the selective use of information is used to support a narrative. From my favorite conspiracy site: https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/f...ings-breakfast

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

We're all just following in your fine labelling footsteps .

Naah.. you guys were at it long before I started..
Good to see 'The Gangs All Here' today..


https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/f...ings-breakfast

Love it..

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Greg K

And here's a humorous and illuminating article from a former NHS Doc regarding how the selective use of information is used to support a narrative. From my favorite conspiracy site: https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/f...ings-breakfast

I assume the irony of you posting this is not lost on you?

I'll await your analysis to be published and peer reviewed before wasting time pretending I'm an epidemiologist or a virologist. Which is exactly the point of the DK reference (in case I'm being to subtle).

[Greg K]

Originally Posted by boatman61

One mans truth is another mans lie..

True that.

And my favorite: One man's trash is another man's treasure.
Living in a nice Tokyo neighbourhood in the 80's bubble, we completely furnished our apartment from stuff thrown out by others.

[Greg K]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

I assume the irony of you posting this is not lost on you?

I'll await your analysis to be published and peer reviewed before wasting time pretending I'm an epidemiologist or a virologist. Which is exactly the point of the DK reference (in case I'm being to subtle).

I'm afraid you're still being too subtle. If what I posted is incorrect or seemingly manipulative why don't you just point it out instead of talking in riddles?