Covid vaccine after having covid

[CatNewBee]

What ever lets you vaccine proponents sleep better. If you want to betray yourself to feel more comfortable with the shots or safe, be it.

It remains experimental gen therapy for anyone else who wants to know what it really is, how it works and how it is made.

Further discussions are useless anyway, you've got you shots, it can't be undone, so why bother what you believe.
Get you boosters injected every year or sooner.

[Thumbs Up]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

The mRNA vaccines are NOT gene therapy. They do not mess with the recipients' genes or change them. You and the rest of the antivax nutbar brigade have been trying with your "gene therapy" word games to pretend that these vaccines are some sort of risky genetic Frankenstein move, and it just ain't so.

There are all sorts of gene-altering potential treatments in the wings, waiting to be tried... but these COVID mRNA vaccines aren't part of that. It's stupid, really stupid, to pretend otherwise. Grow up.

Not only do you not read my links, you don't read my posts. You need to read this two or three times. The journal Nature says it is.

both mRNA-based vaccines represent a unique case that is considered one of the most advanced and promising achievements in the field of pharmaceutical biotechnology and biopharmaceutical formulations. More than three decades of research effort on developing gene therapy solutions for many diseases could not convey many healthcare policymakers, pharmaceutical companies, funding agencies, medicine agencies, and drug administrations to adopt gene therapy avenues as highly potential approaches to transfer the therapeutic strategies into a new era. However, these mRNA vaccines, which have been developed and approved within a few months, signify a breakthrough in the field of gene therapy, which has battled to achieve ordinary acknowledgement due to a large number of skeptical and conservative scientists and other claimed safety and translational concerns. Although these two vaccines are not the first approved drugs utilizing genetic materials as active ingredients, they are believed to be a milestone in modern medical history that may forever change pharmaceutical approaches.https://www.nature.com/articles/s41435-021-00136-6

[Greg K]

Originally Posted by Montanan

Headline: The Delta variant infected almost everyone at a 'superspreader' party in Australia - except the 6 vaccinated people

A birthday party in Australia has been called a "superspreader" event after 24 out of 30 guests tested positive for COVID-19.

The highly infectious Delta variant could have infected every guest at the party had there not been six fully vaccinated healthcare workers in attendance, New South Wales Health Minister Brad Hazzard said on Monday.

"To emphasize just how important vaccinations are … not one of those 24 people were vaccinated," Hazzard told reporters, per the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

"I can also advise that six health workers who attended the party, who were fully vaccinated, not one of those people has been infected," he added.

Among those six was an elderly party guest, a care worker who had only received a single dose of the vaccine. Despite that individual's risk factors, they still did not contract the virus, Hazzard said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...?ocid=msedgntp

One really has to be foolish or stupid to not be vaccinated if one has access to a vaccine and doesn't have a known severe allergic reaction to an ingredient thereof. Yet there are an amazing number of either foolish or stupid, OR BOTH persons in this world. It is becoming ever more easy to classify persons as one or the other or both such characteristic, simply by having knowledge of their hazardous inactions.

Interesting to note that the pathetic scare mongering article you linked to made no mention of either hospitalizations or fatalities within that unvaccinated superspreader group.

Why do you think that propaganda piece masquerading as journalism would omit such crucial information?

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Greg K

Interesting to note that the pathetic scare mongering article you linked to made no mention of either hospitalizations or fatalities within that unvaccinated superspreader group.
Why do you think that propaganda piece masquerading as journalism would omit such crucial information?

Why do you?
Please tell us what [you think] you know, that the media is omitting.

[Greg K]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Why do you?
Please tell us what [you think] you know, that the media is omitting.

What the article is omitting is clear: additional information regarding the gravity of infections and how many of these individuals, if any, required hospitalization or succumbed to the illness. Without this information, the article is incomplete.

As to why this information was omitted, my first guess would be that possibly none were hospitalized or died, and that fact would lessen the impact of the narrative the article was pushing.

You did read this humorous and enlightening piece on narrative control I posted a few pages back, Yes? https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/f...ings-breakfast

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Why do you?
Please tell us what [you think] you know, that the media is omitting.

Ahh.. The amateur psychologist

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Greg K

... As to why this information was omitted, my first guess would be that possibly none were hospitalized or died, and that fact would lessen the impact of the narrative the article was pushing make the information less relevant...

Since all of the infected have been reported as “in isolation, and being monitored”, I suspect your ‘first guess’ is probably correct.

What would the headline be if Joe Biden walked on water, across a lake, in full view of a Fox News reporter?
"BIDEN CAN'T SWIM"

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Ahh.. The amateur psychologist

Actually, I only took up the study of psychology/psychiatry, because the voices told me to.

[Greg K]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Since all of the infected have been reported as “in isolation, and being monitored”, I suspect your ‘first guess’ is probably correct.

What would the headline be if Joe Biden walked on water, across a lake, in full view of a Fox News reporter?
"BIDEN CAN'T SWIM"

Point me to the place in the article where it is stated that all of the infected have been reported as “in isolation, and being monitored”. Not doubting it's there, but I certainly couldn't find even that piece of info in the article itself.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Actually, I only took up the study of psychology/psychiatry, because the voices told me to.

Ahh.. They felt you should question yourself more..

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Ahh.. They felt you should question yourself more..

"Remember Gord, a smart person always has doubts about something. Only a total idiot can be 100% sure about everything.”
"Phil, are you sure?"
"Absolutely, Gord!"

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Greg K

Interesting to note that the pathetic scare mongering article you linked to made no mention of either hospitalizations or fatalities within that unvaccinated superspreader group.

Why do you think that propaganda piece masquerading as journalism would omit such crucial information?

The POINTS are:

1. Delta spreads very efficiently, given an opportunity, and
2. ... vaccination prevented infection at the same event

Isn't that enough to know? Everyone and their dog already know that there's much greater risks from getting sick with COVID than from being vaccinated

And isn't it clear that if there aren't enough people vaccinated, we will have to continue to restrict travel, dining out, large assemblies, sports and music events, etc etc? If only to protect you refusniks.

We know who's being pathetic here, with the nonstop vaccine fearmongering (the clinging to "gene therapy" as a scare name; many naturopathic medicines have genes, are they also "gene therapy"?), the absolute fail on stats (34 and 37 deaths - enough for definitive proof of relative mortality? Get real). Pathetic.

If you don't want it, don't get it. But keep your antivax religious pronouncements to yourself, maybe. As the great sage CatNewBee once opined: Further discussions [about COVID vaccines] are useless anyway.

[Montanan]

Superspreader event up date:

Two more infections linked to the party in New South Wales were added to the tally on Monday, bringing the total number to 31. That includes the 24 people who acquired the virus at the party as well as other people who subsequently were infected by partygoers.

While NSW Health Minister Hazzard cautioned that the fallout from the party was an “unfolding situation”, the outcome so far showed how effective the vaccines were.

“If you’re vaccinated, you are much more likely to not be infected with Covid-19,” Mr Hazzard said.

“So, for those still out there who think that vaccinations aren’t important, they can find excuses not to have vaccinations, they can kid themselves … Short message is: get vaccinated.”

A study, in the United States, has shown vaccines can limit coronavirus transmission, but not completely eliminate the risk.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bre...b871be7dab6d65

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by GordMay

"Remember Gord, a smart person always has doubts about something. Only a total idiot can be 100% sure about everything.”
"Phil, are you sure?"
"Absolutely, Gord!"

You named one of your voices Phil.???
Wow.!!! dunno whether to be offended, flattered or just indifferent..

[Montanan]

Dr. Anthony Fauci said antibody tests are a waste of time and that he planned to get a COVID-19 booster shot to be safe.

Fauci said he believed protection from the COVID-19 vaccine would diminish with time, and booster shots will be needed. Fauci said he will instead pay attention to two signals. The first is the rate of infections in those who participated in the vaccine trial in early 2020. The second is laboratory data showing how vaccine protection is fading.

“You don’t want to assume that you’re going to have indefinite durability of protection,” Fauci said he won’t trust antibody tests to tell him whether he would need a booster shot, and he recommended the public to follow in his footsteps.

The Food and Drug Administration also advised against using antibody tests to test one’s protection against COVID-19. Not all antibody tests target the viral protein that the vaccine does, so the antibody test would not measure the antibodies that the vaccine induced.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...?ocid=msedgntp