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[S/V Adeline]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

NO. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what the process of science is or does. Science fundamentally DOES NOT rely on so-called "common sense."



The process of science is necessary to combat against this highly flawed method of discerning reality. Understanding this fact is the first step in truly understanding what science does and how it works.

We are asked to use common sense AND accept science. Two separate statements. Never was it my suggestion that accepting science was common sense.
Sorry for the misunderstanding

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by S/V Adeline

We are asked to use common sense AND accept science. Two separate statements. Never was it my suggestion that accepting science was common sense.
Sorry for the misunderstanding

So, you could have said, there are pink flamingos AND accept science????

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

Exactly, but,


Common sense is actually nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down in the mind prior to the age of eighteen. --Einstein

Likely explains my deep distrust of authority figures..

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by S/V Adeline

... I never said the earth was flat...but I find it interesting there are several flight paths for commercial airlines that make absolutely no sense distance wise on the globe, but make perfect sense laid over a map of *flat earth*. I would love to know the piece of the puzzle that explains that.

If you think flying from A to B is a matter of plotting the most direct path between two places, think again.

Security and political issues determine flight paths, and ticket prices, far more than considerations about an airline’s carbon footprint [distance flown] .
Pilots cannot just fly wherever they want. Apart from technical and practical matters like waypoints, and the Earth’s natural jet streams, there are also man-made constraints such as political, legal and financial restrictions on airspace, and agreed flight paths.

[S/V Adeline]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

So, you could have said, there are pink flamingos AND accept science????

The common sense comes into play when the science contradicts itself but we are told we should accept it. (Most of us were raised being told to use common sense)
Any *science* that requires you to ignore 100 years of proven scientific research should be approached with skepticism and common sense

[S/V Adeline]

Originally Posted by GordMay

If you think flying from A to B is a matter of plotting the most direct path between two places, think again.

Security and political issues determine flight paths, and ticket prices, far more than considerations about an airline’s carbon footprint [distance flown] .
Pilots cannot just fly wherever they want. Apart from technical and practical matters like waypoints, and the Earth’s natural jet streams, there are also man-made constraints such as political, legal and financial restrictions on airspace, and agreed flight paths.

All well and true, just interesting that several routes where shortest distance would be straight like a->b over open ocean are flown at nearly 75% further route over land/multiple countries. Especially when the longer 'land' route is shortest route when laid over a *flat earth* map.. it's just interesting

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by S/V Adeline

The common sense comes into play when the science contradicts itself but we are told we should accept it. (Most of us were raised being told to use common sense)
Any *science* that requires you to ignore 100 years of proven scientific research should be approached with skepticism and common sense

All findings that come from the process of science are treated skeptically(scientific skepticism, which is not how many people use the term). Findings that challenge long-established facts or paradigms are treated with greater scrutiny.

Whatever common sense is, it doesn't inform this process.

[Sand crab]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

I don't believe in a flat earth although we could possibly have a hollow planet. Moon landing? I have no idea so no comment. However 9/11, I believe was most definitely a false flag. It is very hard to deny that it was not some sort of a controlled demolition.

So 9/11 was a giant conspiracy by Republicans?
And again who is they?

[S/V Adeline]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

All findings that come from the process of science are treated skeptically(scientific skepticism, which is not how many people use the term). Findings that challenge long-established facts or paradigms are treated with greater scrutiny.

Whatever common sense is, it doesn't inform this process.

All true, but when established patterns are disregarded and science is politicized for an agenda...common sense is needed. You keep trying to relate common sense to the scientific process and that WAS NOT my meaning. I was more on the *don't wizz on my back and try to scientifically tell me it's raining*... as a whole we are being told to accept science that contradicts reality, and in such cases one should have and use common sense

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by S/V Adeline

All well and true, just interesting that several routes where shortest distance would be straight like a->b over open ocean are flown at nearly 75% further route over land/multiple countries. Especially when the longer 'land' route is shortest route when laid over a *flat earth* map.. it's just interesting

Can you show us some examples?

[Shanachie]

Aah, SV Adeline, you aren't being very clear. But, as a sailor, you do understand great circle routes?


The shortest route on Earth is not a straight line for long-distance travel. It is a great circle route. That's why planes leaving the U.S. fly way north on their way to Europe instead of a straight line on a map.


Sailors who cross the Atlantic Ocean always agonize over heading north to cut miles vs. staying south to reduce the chance of bad weather.

[S/V Adeline]

Originally Posted by Sand crab

So 9/11 was a giant conspiracy by Republicans?
And again who is they?

I find it interesting one of our alphabet agencies had the exact same scenario planned (to be blamed on Cuba)
Have no real clue who *they* are or what the plan is, but I'm really confused as to why there didn't seem to be any plane wreckage at the Pentagon. If there was some revealed, I would like to see those photos.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by S/V Adeline

All true, but when established patterns are disregarded and science is politicized for an agenda...common sense is needed. You keep trying to relate common sense to the scientific process and that WAS NOT my meaning. I was more on the *don't wizz on my back and try to scientifically tell me it's raining*... as a whole we are being told to accept science that contradicts reality, and in such cases one should have and use common sense

OK, most of this is just opinion or your own personal observation. It's not really open to scientific discussion. But you are making a claim which can be examined or explored. That is: "we are being told to accept science that contradicts reality."

So, to examine this scientifically: #1. Who is telling you this? And what is the "science*" that contradicts reality?

*By this I assume you mean a scientific finding. Science is a process. It's not a thing, or an authority.

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by Sand crab

Who’s they?

https://brandnewtube.com/watch...deo...zlGbGYNn9.html

Watch and you will know, if you are interested in the answer at all. It may also teach you what science is.

[Shanachie]

OK, SV Adeline, I was so puzzled by your posts about routes that I had to read them again. Now I'm laughing.


Not only do you not have a clue about basic navigation, but even your error has an error.


In one post, you seem to be saying that it's a puzzle why planes take these routes that appear to be longer on a map. The answer to that, of course, is that they are taking great circle routes, which actually are shorter.


You know, Earth is kind of round. The closer you get to the poles, the shorter the distance around the world.



Then you seem to say that the route shown by a straight line on a map is shorter in actuality than a great circle route, which is dead wrong.


We should believe your conspiracy theories why? You don't even know basic principles of sailing.