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Old 28-05-2021, 09:32   #61
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The drug that cracked covid article by Micheal Capuzzo
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The EU is preparing for the next vaccination rollout next year... It will never end as long as people crave for a shot.


That’s simply prudent planning , not something the EU does well !!
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The numbers and infections are in a downward pattern since vaccinations became available.
So...all about the profit, isn't all it's about
But Some want to continue the BIG lie!
To go along with Many of the other BIG LIES told by the previous failed Administration of Liars.
People are getting better following science, regardless of imposed politics.
Clearly it's a good thing.
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Duster, I agree that the downward trend is obvious but isn't it more complicated than that? We had a serious downward trend last year at this same time which had nothing to do with vaccines.
I am vaccinated and believe in them but I would love to understand more of what has caused the peaks/waves and valleys. Temperature (time outside rather than inside) seems to have some correlation but not entirely. We had a wave at the end of the calendar year followed by a pretty significant valley followed by the biggest peak yet as people were being vaccinated at a heavy rate.
Does anyone understand the levers at work here beyond the obvious things like holidays that bring people together and cause travel?
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Old 28-05-2021, 16:36   #64
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Given that most people will recover from COVID-19 anyway, even Peach Mango Pie can be presented as a cure for COVID-19: Most people will recover after taking it.
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https://aviation.direct/en/astrazene...censes-at-risk

You may loose your pilot license with an Astra-Zeneca shot...
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You may loose your pilot license with an Astra-Zeneca shot...
Hmmmm....I think a commenter on the above sums it up well:

"can you cite a source for this report? As the FAA AME, I tried to investigate and investigate the facts by calling the FAA's AME hotline. The state of affairs that was given to me there is that there are no regulations at all for vaccines that are not approved in the USA, because their clear rules only apply to the vaccines you have named and approved in the USA by EUA.
So there is no regulation .... " (Dr. Jan U. Bull, FlgArzt and AME)
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Kinda hard for a USA federal regulatory body to say anything or otherwise given that AstraZeneca is not yet approved for use in the USA.

What's the term: Nothingburger?

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...id-19-vaccines
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A preview of what hospital ICUs will look (and sound) like in the next COVID wave:

Death bed denials, pandemic 'hoax' accusations common in southern Manitoba hospital patients, doctor says
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Death bed denials, pandemic 'hoax' accusations common in southern Manitoba hospital patients, doctor says


The very idea of gravely ill people with COVID denying it exists boggles the mind. Kind of defines idiocy
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They do not die of Covid but of the harsh immune response to covid.
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Handy Bob says millions will die from the Covid vaccines. I am still waiting.
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The very idea of gravely ill people with COVID denying it exists boggles the mind. Kind of defines idiocy
Sadly kind of defines the end stage of Covidiotcy.
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Sadly kind of defines the end stage of Covidiotcy.
Like this defines the end stage of Covid paranoia..
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FYI:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavir...105621280.html

Young people with one vaccine dose can still be hospitalised by COVID, says expert

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"Professor Andrew Hayward, from University College London and a member of the government's Nervtag advisory group, said that while it is positive that two doses of vaccine are protecting people against the Indian variant of coronavirus, people who have only had one dose remain vulnerable, including the young. "It is very positive that two doses of vaccine are highly protective against the Indian variant, so for people who have had those two doses of vaccine and are a couple of weeks beyond that then I don't think they need to be overly worried. "On the other hand if you've only had one dose of vaccine then the protective effect appears to be about 30% – it's probably a bit better than that – against hospitalisation, but you can still end up in hospital as you're hearing, even if you're young." He said while the outcome might not be so bad as previously, it would still be a "very unpleasant experience" and could involve having to be administered oxygen, as well as the risk of having long COVID."

My cousin's daughter who was formerly vibrant, healthy and athletic is a junior in high school developed Covid four plus months ago and still is ill, fatigued, brain fog, head aches, and unable to attend school but attempting to study at home, which is challenging when many of her classes are Advanced Placement Courses [she is very intelligent]. They will soon be transporting her from Montana to the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota for visitations with specialists dealing with long Covid. She is not the only youngster that we know that are struggling with this disease. It seems she became infected when travelling with her school's sports team this winter.

I have been fully vaccinated for close to two months now. I continue to wear my mask and social distance from others. My risk of serious disease is modest having the aid of the Moderna jabs, but I could still become infected and thus may be a vector of the virus to others who are not vaccinated. Young teenagers can now receive vaccinations [12 to 15 years old] but vaccines for younger children have yet to receive emergency use authorization. I will endeavor to mask and social distance from those that are not fully vaccinated so as to aid in protecting them, sure would hate to inadvertently [and asymptomatically] infect someone. We are not all safe, until we are all vaccinated. It appears that vaccines will likely be approved for young children by early next year so I project that I will endeavor to continue wearing masks when out in the public or near youngsters until perhaps about this time next year, May 2022.

2022 remains a transition year and that transition will extend well into next year in the USA and likely considerably longer in countries with slower vaccination capabilities. But then if there remains vaccine hesistancy or antivaxxing, even in the USA the need for Covid safety protocols could linger.

Wearing a mask is not a big ask, nor a hard task. Whereas getting Covid can be tremendously adverse and / or deadly, even to those with no apparent weaknesses or comorbidities.

When I am with persons that are fully vaccinated and thus at low risk, then I generally remove my mask as do the others I have the privilege of being in company with. But before removing my mask, I always ask if everyone is fully vaccinated and ask if I have their permission to remove my mask and / or to be in closer distance. Being courteous and respectful of others well being, have yet to find anyone who takes issue with my caring for their safety.

Hope you all stay safe and healthy, all the best.
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Like this defines the end stage of Covid paranoia..
A person who is in late stage decline due to Covid may well be in a state of anosognosia.

Anosognosia, is a word of Greek origin that roughly translates to "without knowledge of disease." You may also hear it called "lack of insight." What it boils down to is that the person is unaware of their condition and unable to accept it. Often persons with mental disorders suffer from anosognosia:
Anosognosia is common in people with serious mental illness. Doctors think about 40% of people with bipolar disorder and 50% of those with schizophrenia have it. Some psychiatrists believe the numbers are even higher. They estimate that anywhere from 57%-98% of people with schizophrenia have it. Many people with neurological disorders have this condition. It isn’t unusual for someone with Alzheimer's to get it. Stroke patients often do, too.

So yeah, sadly those that suffered from Covidiotcy and then developed Covid may suffer from denial even when they are in death bed with the disease.
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