FACT vs OPINION

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by SalingSue

The few who said F’ off and just went on as normal, I go out of my way to support.

"My right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins."

One does not have the right to endanger the life or health of others.

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by SalingSue

It’s hard to believe the UK would allow that, but very cool if they let their subjects have such freedoms.

Mike is almost a libertarian.

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by jackdale

"My right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins."

One does not have the right to endanger the life or health of others.

I hope you don’t carry an Epirb.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

I hope you don’t carry an Epirb.

I do carry an EPIRB. I also carry a PLB and and a personal AIS, which I recommend to my crew. I do not wish to endanger the life or health of my crew. As well I carry the phone numbers for the RCCs along my route.

I have also been assisted by AMVER in a medevac 1040 miles north of Hawaii. I called the RCC in Honolulu; the Flight Surgeon recommended an evacuation.

Here is the AMVER media release:
https://www.amver.com/Content/Docs/P...ss_release.pdf

Here is the video shot from the container ship.

https://youtu.be/NBn7drXizb0

And you point is?

[SalingSue]

Originally Posted by jackdale

"My right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins."

One does not have the right to endanger the life or health of others.

So show me on the doll where I hurt you?
How about if you can’t, I get to sue you and take your boat? If you want to damage my life you should have to have some skin in the game too if you’re genuinely going to play that saying with this sub 1% death rate virus, for people who arnt even sick, honestly what’s next?

Do you also think all the anti “terrorist” stuff post 9/11 made you safer?

I mean do you say the same nose comment to the little kid getting his junk fondled by the TSA drone?
After all, he COULD have a nuclear bomb in his pants, and that COULD hurt your nose.

[SalingSue]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

Mike is almost a libertarian.

Indeed!

[Mike OReilly]

Yes indeed, in a free market where businesses like to have repeat customers, most are finding it best not to have their staff and visitors get Covid-19.

BTW, I'm a libertarian socialist .

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by jackdale

I do carry an EPIRB. I also carry a PLB and and a personal AIS, which I recommend to my crew. I do not wish to endanger the life or health of my crew. As well I carry the phone numbers for the RCCs along my route.

I have also been assisted by AMVER in a medevac 1040 miles north of Hawaii. I called the RCC in Honolulu; the Flight Surgeon recommended an evacuation.

Here is the AMVER media release:
https://www.amver.com/Content/Docs/P...ss_release.pdf

Here is the video shot from the container ship.

https://youtu.be/NBn7drXizb0

And you point is?

You’re endangering.

[SalingSue]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Yes indeed, in a free market where businesses like to have repeat customers, most are finding it best not to have their staff and visitors get Covid-19.

BTW, I'm a libertarian socialist .

Libertarian socialist...oh boy

Do you argue with yourself much?

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by SalingSue

Libertarian socialist...oh boy

Do you argue with yourself much?

LOL.

LOL.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

You’re endangering.

What / who am I endangering? How so?

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by SalingSue

Libertarian socialist...oh boy

Do you argue with yourself much?

You may wish to actually read Marx and Engels. The last stage of their dialectical view of history is the "the withering away of the state". There is no government and property is held communally.

Stage 6 – Communism

Everyone would join together for the common good. Money and government would no longer be needed and society would be class-less. As all countries reached this stage the world would become state-less and competition and wars would cease.

Marxist Stage Theory

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by jackdale

What / who am I endangering? How so?

You’re endangering yourself your crew and all your rescuers.

You’re also endangering the taxpayer who has to work to support your rescuers.

[Singularity]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

....I found this report that is critical of the COVID PCR tests. If what it says is true, there are serious errors in the entire COVID pandemic narrative. My feeble mind can't seem to decipher where the truth lies. I think that you should take a stab at it. Here is the link:https://cormandrostenreview.com/repo...XDNM8KW7YBd41A

The "report" is effectively a letter to the editor...last week...fault-finding an initial PCR protocol developed and published back in January that probably hasn't been used since February.

Look at RNA like half a zipper, but instead of half a zipper, think of a piano keyboard. But the keys (notes) are set in a manner unique to each virus. A type of protein called polymerase(s) act like a Xerox machine making a second copy of the RNA (keyboard) using a key (primer) that will only attach to the unique piano keys of the target virus.

The "report" was critical of principally a) "who have us the info for the primer", b) the primer [in January] wasn't optimal [duh], c) there had yet to be a routine control/check to make sure each machine run was good, d) the report was published too quickly.

Suffice it to say the "lab" part of the PCR test (to which this report speaks) has been on par with other PCR tests for 6-7+ months.

In context, it's like in September of 1942 a bunch of guys who'd been denied enlistment into the military wrote a report critical of the haphazard anti-aircraft fire response in Dec 1941 at Pearl Harbor. Odd, unless seeking attention or something.

I submit to you that if you knew more about the subject, you'd appreciate that if there had been MORE of this so-called "crappy" protocol available back in February, and if the testing was widespread, we'd be in a better way today. It's just nuts that people would write such a report about a provisional protocol published back in January.

[Thumbs Up]

Originally Posted by Singularity

......In context, it's like in September of 1942 a bunch of guys who'd been denied enlistment into the military wrote a report critical of the haphazard anti-aircraft fire response in Dec 1941 at Pearl Harbor. .......

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...d-test-results
What about CT count? Even Fauci's saying less than 35. (The quote is from the report not Fauci).

Between 30 and 35 there is a grey area, where a positive test cannot be established with certainty. This area should be excluded. Of course, one could perform 45 PCR cycles, as recommended in the Corman-Drosten WHO-protocol (Figure 4), but then you also have to define a reasonable Ct-value (which should not exceed 30). But an analytical result with a Ct value of 45 is scientifically and diagnostically absolutely meaningless (a reasonable Ct-value should not exceed 30). All this should be communicated very clearly. It is a significant mistake that the Corman-Drosten paper does not mention the maximum Ct value at which a sample can be unambiguously considered as a positive or a negative test-result. This important cycle threshold limit is also not specified in any follow-up submissions to date.