The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid

[boatman61]

Seems the court released him (Novak) and a ministers had him arrested again...

[Wotname]

Maybe, maybe not.

Supposedly giving a presser at 1300 GMT, i.e in about an hour.

Novak Djokovic will give a press conference at 13.00 GMT, his father has told the BBC.

Srdan Djokovic said his son with take part in a planned family press conference via a video link. The family had been due to address the media around now but the event has been put back to 1300 GMT (midnight in Australia), Djokovic senior told the BBC.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/li...0813d917539250

[El Pinguino]

A bit of a win- win so far.

Just because the man can hit a ball doesn't mean he is still a wanker and he has effectively just gamed the system. His couple of days with mere mortals may have done him some good.

This is worth a read - or maybe not.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/w...10-p59n50.html

On the other side its always nice to see Scumbo made to look like a goose.

[Saleen411]

Well this is getting more interesting.....

Seems some media talking heads are comparing Australia to China. Not in a good way.

I've seen a lot of back and forth on this issue, but I still don't have a handle on what the majority of Aussies think about this. Should Djokovic be allowed to play or get the boot?

My understanding is that Djokovic has not been held "prisoner" like some hyped up stories allege, but is free to leave at any time.

And WHAT does all this have to do with sailing?.....hmmmmm.

[boatman61]

Express Sport
@DExpress_Sport
BREAKING: Novak Djokovic 'arrested' just hours after hotel release as Australian Open farce continues

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Actually Boatie was reporting a news feed from the Express saying Novak had been arrested a couple of hours after his court appearance....
Meanwhile Diddums GordMay continues throwing his toys outa his pram because I won't fall into line with his attempts to be an Influencer....

The Express would appear to be talking non sense.

Latest on the family presser, scroll down a bit
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/tenn...10-p59n0m.html

This whole thing would make a good Borat movie.

'The family did not answer the question and adjourned the news conference immediately.

The exchange went like this:

REPORTER: “Is it true he was positive on December 16?“

DJORDJE DJOKOVIC: “Yes, that’s all in the documents.”

REPORTER: “Was he out in public on December 17 while infected?“

DJORDJE DJOKOVIC: “The press conference is adjourned.”

The family then burst into a Serbian folk song named that translates as “One song, one team.”

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

The Express would appear to be talking non sense.

Latest on the family presser, scroll down a bit
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/tenn...10-p59n0m.html

This whole thing would make a good Borat movie.

'The family did not answer the question and adjourned the news conference immediately.

The exchange went like this:

REPORTER: “Is it true he was positive on December 16?“

DJORDJE DJOKOVIC: “Yes, that’s all in the documents.”

REPORTER: “Was he out in public on December 17 while infected?“

DJORDJE DJOKOVIC: “The press conference is adjourned.”

The family then burst into a Serbian folk song named that translates as “One song, one team.”

It appears so now, seems there was a lot of police presence around where he'd moved to and 'white police vans' which led to several reports in various outlets that he'd been re-arrested.
Latest reports suggest he is now back out there practicing for the tournament..
Rock on Novak..

[El Pinguino]

Settle down ladies.
I have just made what I consider to be an interesting observation.
If you look here https://www.theage.com.au/national/c..._redirect=true
and go to the maps of NSW and Vic aka 'the plague states' Omicron is concentrated in the same areas as delta was last year, in Victoria's case the NW suburbs of Melbourne and around Casey/Dandenong. Its not ripping through the bush. Which is nice.
I'm still glad to be out of it for a spell.

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by Saleen411

Well this is getting more interesting.....

Seems some media talking heads are comparing Australia to China. Not in a good way.

I've seen a lot of back and forth on this issue, but I still don't have a handle on what the majority of Aussies think about this. Should Djokovic be allowed to play or get the boot?

My understanding is that Djokovic has not been held "prisoner" like some hyped up stories allege, but is free to leave at any time.

And WHAT does all this have to do with sailing?.....hmmmmm.

I reckon most Aussies enjoy playing / watching sport. Right now they are watching a volley and waiting to see who plays a better point.

Mostly we like good sportsman who will play the game, not the player.
Mostly we dislike wankers and tall poppies.
Mostly we agree with vaccination that follows medical advice.
Mostly we expect politicians to keep off the playing field.

So when we are confronted with half baked guvmit wankers getting onto the court trying to ace a anti-vaxxer tall poppy, we shake our heads in disbelief and do what we need to do - throw some lamb on the barbie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck8CO6zGFB0

BTW, yeah Novax was free to go home anytime he wished - many would have wished he had exercised his freedom this way.

[Alan Mighty]

Originally Posted by Saleen411

Seems some media talking heads are comparing Australia to China. Not in a good way.

Let's be honest. In the early 21st century, the economics and technology of China look a lot better than most other places around the planet!

Originally Posted by Saleen411

And WHAT does all this have to do with sailing?.....hmmmmm.

The Novax v Aus game has little to do with sailing, but it has a lot to do with cruising.

One of the big differences between mere sailing and cruising is that the latter often includes crossing national borders. And that involves dealing with the CIQ trinity: customs, immigration, and quarantine.

The biggest bugbears of cruisers facing CIQ issues include:

* unclear or poorly specified requirements for visas, for customs bonds on the value of the hull, for everything from quarantine inspection of the hull (and through-hulls) through to inspection of antifouling chemicals, for strange distinctions between crew and passengers, for complex rules on the carriage of pyrotechnics, medicines, blades, and more; and

* high degree of personal discretion in the hands of the CIQ officers (mostly as a result of the unclear/poorly specified requirements for visas, hull and personal quarantine, bonds on hulls etc).

And those two issues - including others - seem to be at the heart of the on-going struggle between Novax the Djoke and the Aus govt machine.

For cruisers, those bugbears have empowered individual CIQ officers around the world to put their hands out for 'coffee money', 'donations for the kiddies' schoolbooks', or (in the case of Aus) handed out prison sentences and swingeing fines/compounds to cruisers who had been misled into believing they were complying with CIQ requirements.

[El Pinguino]

I wonder what cunning stunt Novax will pull next year, third brush with Covid?
Lucky we weren't dragged into another war by the Serbs. If that had happened it would have been over pretty quick. A thrust up through the Dardanelles - they wouldn't see that coming.

What has tennis to do with sailing? Pretty much everything - if you go sailing its a given that you play tennis and if you play tennis it follows that you go sailing.
Pretty clear to me.

[Alan Mighty]

Originally Posted by Alan Mighty

The biggest bugbears of cruisers facing CIQ issues include:

* unclear or poorly specified requirements for visas, for customs bonds on the value of the hull, for everything from quarantine inspection of the hull (and through-hulls) through to inspection of antifouling chemicals, for strange distinctions between crew and passengers, for complex rules on the carriage of pyrotechnics, medicines, blades, and more; and

* high degree of personal discretion in the hands of the CIQ officers (mostly as a result of the unclear/poorly specified requirements for visas, hull and personal quarantine, bonds on hulls etc).

From the Aus Fin Rev this morning:

The airport interview with Djokovic was almost textbook in its violations of natural justice.

Take away the person’s phone, the means by which he might be able to provide more information or contact a lawyer. Tell him the interview will resume at 8am, but then bring it forward by a few hours and press him to sign a document.

You can also throw in this beauty; tell him his documents from Tennis Australia and the Victorian government count for nought because borders are the province of another level of government. As if Djokovic cares.

It’s no wonder Judge Kelly, who has a reputation for being sceptical of government authority, wanted the public to see the transcript of the interview.

Indeed, he made a telling comment about the confiscation of the phone, which suggested he had seen that happen before and didn’t like it.

In fact, there is a lot not to like about the way Djokovic was treated. Forget that he gamed the system, he still had basic rights that were trampled upon by officials.

[Wotname]

Government told they must learn to live with Novak

For more - https://chaser.com.au/national/gover...ve-with-novak/

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

I wonder what cunning stunt Novax will pull next year, third brush with Covid?
........

Prolly a name change will do it.

Yesvac Djoke hoists the Q flag and sails right on through the Border Farce blockade.

[Alan Mighty]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Lucky we weren't dragged into another war by the Serbs. If that had happened it would have been over pretty quick. A thrust up through the Dardanelles - they wouldn't see that coming.

I'm speechless ....

Have you forgotten the 1990s?

Forgotten the embarrassment of the Nederlandisch infantry battalion, cobbled together on the run, and then comprehensively disempowered by their own government, by the UNProFor chain of command, and by squabbles among permanent members of the UN Security Council?

Have you not watched the movie 'Quo vadis, Aida?'? It's not a bad aide memoire.

Do yourself a favour: read the wikipedia pages:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutchbat

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...otection_Force

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Srebrenica

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quo_Vadis,_Aida%3F

And:

* https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8633462/

* https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/quo_vadis_aida

I'm not well known as a booster of Scummo.

But I must note that Aus PM Morrison has done the proper thing: talked directly to his counterpart in Serbia and started preparing the way for Serbian acceptance of the next move by the otherwise bumbling Morrison govt.