The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by UFO

A friend of mine and his father who came down to WA from NT were stopped covid tested and told to self isolate until the results were in - 5-6 days!!!!

As for 5-6 days to get the results back, well that is truly taking the pi$$.

Border crossing in WA - NT would be in a rather remote location would it not?
9 hours to Darwin by road
15 hours to Alice Springs
34 hours to Perth

Not sure how they are done but guessing they go back to an actual lab?

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/-12....-15.981566!3e0

[JPA Cate]

I've undergone swabbing and quarantine twice. The technician who did it twice exceeded my ability to cope with it, and I actually flinched away from her, and told her to stop! The second time, the experience was done by a lung doctor, and included throat swabbing, but he had a lighter hand with it, and it was not as unpleasant. So, the experience can also vary with the technique of the swabber.

I can understand feeling protective of dad and wishing he had not got the nosebleed. I have a weak vessel in my nose and it bleeds and it is a nuisance, plus people get upset when it's running down your chin.

But, I am totally convinced that the CDC in the US are right that even we who have had two jabs can be unknowing carriers if we have been exposed. And therefore, I think we just need to accept the inconvenience for the greater good. And preferably with only medically justifiable exceptions.

At least in the US, the deaths are more frequent among those not vaccinated, especially with the Delta variant, and none of us knows about the next variants to come, although generally the pattern in the past has been that they get less virulent.

We're gonna cope with this the best we all can, and that's the best that can be done.

Ann

[El Pinguino]

With the lowest vacination rates in Australia - less than 12% fully vaxxed in the north of the state - you really truly do not want delta getting into WA.

Lambda the dominant strain in Peru since April? - golly they must be dropping like flies there -

Nope - seems not
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/peru/
I guess the vax must be working.

[CapnBazza]

Originally Posted by UFO

A friend of mine and his father who came down to WA from NT were stopped covid tested and told to self isolate until the results were in - 5-6 days!!!!


They stuck the swab so far up his fathers nose that it caused a very large nose bleed!



Both of them have had BOTH vaccination shots and when they told them this they were told that you can still catch and spread Covid even if vaccinated and that they still must isolate until the results come in.


What sort of Mickey Mouse world (sorry Country) do we live in where HEALTHY (Vaccinated) People are locked up?



As for 5-6 days to get the results back, well that is truly taking the pi$$.


Vive la Révolution

A friend of yours yes? Australia is struggling to keep Covid19 under control but your friend still feels the need to travel interstate and then whinges about a nose bleed. Poor bugger.

[RaymondR]

If you think covid's not having a serious effect upon boating and cruising think again.

I just pulled into one of my favorite anchorages, which normally does not have more than three or four boats in it, and the damned thing is chocablock full of damned multihulls.

Either the virus is mutating into Lagoon's or half the population is cashing out their superanuation, buying a boat and going cruising in Queensland.

[CapnBazza]

Originally Posted by RaymondR

If you think covid's not having a serious effect upon boating and cruising think again.

I just pulled into one of my favorite anchorages, which normally does not have more than three or four boats in it, and the damned thing is chocablock full of damned multihulls.

Either the virus is mutating into Lagoon's or half the population is cashing out their superanuation, buying a boat and going cruising in Queensland.

We’ll be out there shortly, in a multihull. Cheers from Purrfect.

[nautilee]

Even vaccinated, and relatively newly vaccinated as in a couple of months whilst immune response is still strong, people get Delta and pass it on, even children. Ask my fullyvaccinated daughter in LA and her husband and elder daughter - youngest too young for vaccine yet. All 4 came down with Delta DESPITE being vaccinated and social distancing and masks and temperature checks etc.
2 children and husband recovered in 3-5 unpleasant days however my daughter is not in Day 12 and not doing well at all. Had special IV infusion in hospital on day 10 as getting worse very quickly and is only just stabilising now and certainly not better or improved. And she is VERY sick. Hopefully having b been vaccinated, she will not die. And hopefully she will not be left with totally debilitating symptoms long term. And you complain??? Get real and see the outside world not just your minor inconveniences which are to help not only you but your community.

[Bunji]

Originally Posted by UFO

A friend of mine and his father who came down to WA from NT were stopped covid tested and told to self isolate until the results were in - 5-6 days!!!!


They stuck the swab so far up his fathers nose that it caused a very large nose bleed!



Both of them have had BOTH vaccination shots and when they told them this they were told that you can still catch and spread Covid even if vaccinated and that they still must isolate until the results come in.



What sort of Mickey Mouse world (sorry Country) do we live in where HEALTHY (Vaccinated) People are locked up?



As for 5-6 days to get the results back, well that is truly taking the pi$$.


Vive la Révolution

The iron ore mines and zillions of dollars of federal govt stimulus (money printing) and all the people on the COVID front line are the only things keeping this country going at the moment
People are inherently selfish it’s just the amount that varies

[chrisr]

Originally Posted by ChrisJHC

Hamilton Island Race Week cancelled.
Sydney to Gold Coast Race postponed and almost certain to be cancelled.
Yacht charters in the Whitsundays being cancelled putting businesses at risk.

So, yes, there has been an “effect from restrictions” in QLD.

maybe, but these things are not really of much interest to cruising folk

important stuff (like the shaggers rendezvou) is unaffected and virtually every anchorage we go to is busy. apart fm brief lockdowns in SEQ and a couple of other spots, boats can come and go at will

as far as we are concerned, it's pretty close to normal up here

cheers,

[MultiCountryDon]

Originally Posted by sinnerman

This is a boaters forum . Not a "how life sucks under COVID blog".

Let's keep it that way.

There are plenty of other places for people to vent frustrations other than this forum.

I come here to brighten up my day, not be dragged down by the daily BS.

My two cents

+10

[ixnax]

Originally Posted by sinnerman

This is a boaters forum . Not a "how life sucks under COVID blog".

Let's keep it that way.

There are plenty of other places for people to vent frustrations other than this forum.

I come here to brighten up my day, not be dragged down by the daily BS.

My two cents

Yes, and all of the posts are being made by boaters so we must endure their, in my opinion, legitimate frustrations. You can always change the channel, you know.

[Stevenc]

It never ceases to amaze me how self centred some people are, I hope I don’t meet any of you in my travels. Sometimes, we might need to put up with an inconvenience rather than prolong it for everyone. But you wouldn’t understand that anyway. Poor man got an accidental nose bleed! Life is the pits here in Australia...especially when you go on holidays.

[Rucksta]

Originally Posted by Cadence

You hit the nail right on the head, money printing. The dollar value is going down the tubes. When it is easier to live off the dole than work. My rant for today.

Pre-pandemic the AUD was under 0.60 USD now the AUD is in the low to mid 0.70 USD range.
Stock market is at or near an all time high and current profit reporting season shows promise.

Certainly many SMEs that were unable to pivot into the new economy have suffered yet work place participation levels are higher than pre-covid.

How does this equate with the AUD going down the tubes?

It seems money printing, social security stimulus and virus containment have insulated the Aussie Economy.

When inflation inevitably hits one effect will be to discount the debt we've incurred as a nation and as individuals.

Not arguing that governments, especially State Governments, are competent or agile but on balance they've done an OK job

[GordMay]

Andrew Saul, and his Doctor Yourself Dot Com website are full of quackery.

Andrew W. Saul [the Megavitamin Man] says:
“The coronavirus pandemic can be dramatically slowed, or stopped, with the immediate widespread use of high doses of vitamin C “
➥ Vitamin C Protects Against Coronavirus

While vitamin C may slightly help ward off common illnesses, there is no evidence high doses of the supplement can slow or stop the current coronavirus.
The bulk of scientific evidence indicates that regular vitamin C supplementation does not reduce the incidence of viral respiratory tract infections, such as the common cold, which can be caused by coronaviruses, in the general population.
Vitamin C does appear to reduce the incidence of the common cold, but only in a small, specific population undergoing severe physical stress, such as marathon runners. This effect is therefore not generalizable to most people.
➥ https://www.health.harvard.edu/cold-...prevent-a-cold

[mjgill1]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Andrew Saul, and his Doctor Yourself Dot Com website are full of quackery.

Andrew W. Saul [the Megavitamin Man] says:
“The coronavirus pandemic can be dramatically slowed, or stopped, with the immediate widespread use of high doses of vitamin C “
➥ Vitamin C Protects Against Coronavirus

While vitamin C may slightly help ward off common illnesses, there is no evidence high doses of the supplement can slow or stop the current coronavirus.
The bulk of scientific evidence indicates that regular vitamin C supplementation does not reduce the incidence of viral respiratory tract infections, such as the common cold, which can be caused by coronaviruses, in the general population.
Vitamin C does appear to reduce the incidence of the common cold, but only in a small, specific population undergoing severe physical stress, such as marathon runners. This effect is therefore not generalizable to most people.
➥ https://www.health.harvard.edu/cold-...prevent-a-cold

That's great Gord. The problem is in the study's methods and who paid for them. High Dose means just that. One should always ask themselves this question when looking at "information". Cui Bono?