The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid

[El Pinguino]

He may be doing marginaly better than Colbeck who has just come out from under the doona.

All or at least most or even maybe almost all aged care workers to be vaccinated by the end of this week
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/f...13-p58r9l.html

Over 60 and wanting Phizer?
Come to Victoria and join the CFMEU.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...13-p58r7n.html

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by GILow

It’s ok, most of us who live here don’t understand the politics.

Regarding availability of vaccines in Australia, politics aside we made a call early on to put a lot of our eggs in one basket, the basket in this case being AZ, because we could produce it locally. At the time this probably seemed smart as it would have decoupled us from global supply chain problems.

Alas, the AZ clotting issue cropped up and the perception of risk of that complication overrode the perception of risk from Covid (thanks to our success in keeping it mostly at bay).

We are now playing catch-up, both in getting our hands on alternatives to AZ as well as actually going through the significant task of lining people up and sticking needles in arms.

All the political sh-t aside, Australia is still a pretty good place to have been for this pandemic and hindsight is always a wonderful thing.

Thanks for the sane insight into the problem in Australia and Covid. I hope a vaccine can be developed or sent to you in mass. The political rhetoric got old.

[RaymondR]

Originally Posted by Wotname

Source??

Best I can find at short notice is https://www.news.com.au/national/vic...a720a20d4dc83c

but it mentions nothing about a thank you letter and stops well short of 'outright lie'.

Not that I am surprised by any pollie lying.

Sky News, showed the segment and quoted some of the relevant text from the letter. They get a bit right wing at times but are the only news organization which provides the full story and supporting statistics rather than just regurgitate government handouts.

The biggest employers of journalist by far is government. There job is to ensure that you only get the news they want you to hear with the slant they want.

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by Wotname

Source??

Best I can find at short notice is https://www.news.com.au/national/vic...a720a20d4dc83c

but it mentions nothing about a thank you letter and stops well short of 'outright lie'.

Not that I am surprised by any pollie lying.

So Hunt told Foley there would be an announcement at the weekend.
“I was working with Martin Foley last week, late in the week, and we said that there’d be a package across three fronts announced on the weekend"'

Didn't actually tell him that Canberra had managed to bludge some Moderna from the Bulgarians.

[El Pinguino]

Meanwhile freedom and fun in Covid free Darwin

From the link -
'Before the chaos, Northern Territory Chief Minister Michael Gunner posted a video of the event on Facebook.

"You can't do this in Bondi, but you can do this in Darwin," he boasted.

"This is the reward for Covid Zero and hard borders - freedom and fun."

Bet he wishes he hadn't said that

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austra...nfested-waters

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Meanwhile freedom and fun in Covid free Darwin

From the link -
'Before the chaos, Northern Territory Chief Minister Michael Gunner posted a video of the event on Facebook.

"You can't do this in Bondi, but you can do this in Darwin," he boasted.

"This is the reward for Covid Zero and hard borders - freedom and fun."

Bet he wishes he hadn't said that

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austra...nfested-waters

Some Darwinism in action in Darwin.

[Alan Mighty]

Originally Posted by SV DINGO

There are still one way tickets to North korea or if you prefer a slightly higher standard to China available. I myself do not want to live in a country where citizens get told what to do , i think that is fundamentally the difference between democracies and dictatorships. You are in a good situation , you can choose to go to North korea , the guy in North korea can not. Safe trip.

I of course applaud Dingo for his libertarian madness.

If only life were like that.

For the rest of us who understand that Australia IS a country that tells its citizens what to do, especially if they contemplate cruising to foreign lands and perhaps returning to Australia, my recommendations today are:

1. if you have a Medicare card, then download the Medicare app to a smart device you control and establish login credentials;

2. check that the Medicare app shows proof of your Covid immunisation (i.e. your WHO International Certificate of Vaccination does not work).

3. establish a MyGov account and establish login credentials and links to a couple of the government services they recognise;

4. download the MyGov app to a smart device you control and establish login credentials;

5. download the MyGov Code Generator app to a smart device you control. The MyGov app wants to send code numbers by SMS. My experience is that the codes do not get received when overseas and roaming your Aus mobile telecom connection. So the MyGov Code Generator app supposedly fills that gap. ** Note also that the MyGov officer to whom I spoke by phone recommended NEVER using the MyGov Code Generator app or the MyGov Digital ID, because neither of them work**

All of those are necessary for the next step, one that should emerge soon, the so-called Digital Passenger Declaration. The DPD will replace current paper/digital forms (the Incoming Passenger Card and the digital Covid-19 Travel Declaration Form).

I'll bet it's simpler in a clean authoritarian regime such as the People's Republic of China or the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea (the examples cited by Dingo).

[RaymondR]

Could have been in one of the social commentators shows. I tend to watch the beginning of the Paul Murray Live thing because he tends to give all the statistics and maps showing the distributions.

You tell a lie when you knowingly state an untruth.

[UFO]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Meanwhile freedom and fun in Covid free Darwin

From the link -
'Before the chaos, Northern Territory Chief Minister Michael Gunner posted a video of the event on Facebook.

"You can't do this in Bondi, but you can do this in Darwin," he boasted.

"This is the reward for Covid Zero and hard borders - freedom and fun."

Bet he wishes he hadn't said that

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austra...nfested-waters

I have just arrived in Darwin and its very nice


Its amazing that people who live in areas of such high tidal ranges simply do not understand them and how dangerous they can be.


On the other side it's a real pain dealing with the tender if you want to go ashore for a long period of time.

[RaymondR]

Originally Posted by UFO

I have just arrived in Darwin and its very nice


Its amazing that people who live in areas of such high tidal ranges simply do not understand them and how dangerous they can be.


On the other side it's a real pain dealing with the tender if you want to go ashore for a long period of time.

A mixture of tourists and urban rabble and there is a very large larrikin (a person with apparent disregard for convention; a maverick) element in the Northern Territory and they tend to like a little adventure in their recreation. It would be a very greedy croc to eat them all.

It's worse in Broome where the tides are about another three metres higher.

A good system of wheels is the answer.

[UFO]

Originally Posted by RaymondR

A good system of wheels is the answer.

That's for my next tender when I get to the East Coast.


I just tow in a Kayak and anchor my tender and then use the Kayak which is easy to drag anywhere.

[SV DINGO]

Originally Posted by Alan Mighty

I of course applaud Dingo for his libertarian madness.

If only life were like that.

For the rest of us who understand that Australia IS a country that tells its citizens what to do, especially if they contemplate cruising to foreign lands and perhaps returning to Australia, my recommendations today are:

1. if you have a Medicare card, then download the Medicare app to a smart device you control and establish login credentials;

2. check that the Medicare app shows proof of your Covid immunisation (i.e. your WHO International Certificate of Vaccination does not work).

3. establish a MyGov account and establish login credentials and links to a couple of the government services they recognise;

4. download the MyGov app to a smart device you control and establish login credentials;

5. download the MyGov Code Generator app to a smart device you control. The MyGov app wants to send code numbers by SMS. My experience is that the codes do not get received when overseas and roaming your Aus mobile telecom connection. So the MyGov Code Generator app supposedly fills that gap. ** Note also that the MyGov officer to whom I spoke by phone recommended NEVER using the MyGov Code Generator app or the MyGov Digital ID, because neither of them work**

All of those are necessary for the next step, one that should emerge soon, the so-called Digital Passenger Declaration. The DPD will replace current paper/digital forms (the Incoming Passenger Card and the digital Covid-19 Travel Declaration Form).

I'll bet it's simpler in a clean authoritarian regime such as the People's Republic of China or the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea (the examples cited by Dingo).

Well if Australia IS telling their citizens what to do or not to do , the pictures from Bondi beach again told a very different story. Glady's is also telling a different story because she knows especially in NSW you can hardly tell them what they can not do. Yes so far in the communist Victoria it has worked and the scare campaign that the Chairman rolled out so far has worked but even the Chairman is changing his tone. You are not getting the genie back into the bottle , we all know that so why argue about it. You are in Brissy , you have some cases but still we have a normal life up here , so why dont we keep that a bit longer?

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by RaymondR

Sky News, showed the segment and quoted some of the relevant text from the letter. They get a bit right wing at times but are the only news organization which provides the full story and supporting statistics rather than just regurgitate government handouts.



The biggest employers of journalist by far is government. There job is to ensure that you only get the news they want you to hear with the slant they want.

Given the goofs gaffs , controversies , outright mayhem that leaks out of governments or is unearthed by journalists I don’t think I’d agree with your last statement.

[RaymondR]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Given the goofs gaffs , controversies , outright mayhem that leaks out of governments or is unearthed by journalists I don’t think I’d agree with your last statement.

Which bit din't you agree with?

It's all coming to a halt anyway, the public is catching on to them and is beginning to realize that we ain't all going to die.

And they can forget about their "vaccine passports", they'll never get it to work because of the passive resistance of the public. Scare tactics tend to lose their effectiveness with excessive use.

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by RaymondR

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And they can forget about their "vaccine passports", they'll never get it to work because of the passive resistance of the public. Scare tactics tend to lose their effectiveness with excessive use.

Looks like the biggest Aussie casino is seeing the odds the other way.
No vaccine = no betting.
That will see a hellva lot punters jabbed methinks.

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia...02b386b2555801

First saw this on the 'other side' media but now it's on Sky - it's gotta be true