The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid

[sailingabe41ds]

Meantime, here in California our governor can go to restaurants without restrictions (French Laundry), the mayor of San Francisco can party without masks, back east Obama can celebrate his bd without masks, and nobody at the Emmys in Hollyweird were wearing masks except for the servants.
These are all the same people who preach lockdowns, masks, and mandates..but not for them.
Makes you wonder if these people believe what they preach....for thee but not for me.

Abe

[jimbunyard]

Originally Posted by sailingabe41ds

Meantime, here in California our governor can go to restaurants without restrictions (French Laundry), the mayor of San Francisco can party without masks, back east Obama can celebrate his bd without masks, and nobody at the Emmys in Hollyweird were wearing masks except for the servants.
These are all the same people who preach lockdowns, masks, and mandates..but not for them.
Makes you wonder if these people believe what they preach....for thee but not for me.

Abe

So let's see. I bet you think tic-tacs are piloted by little green men too...

[Alan Mighty]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

A lot of Ten Pound Poms got off the boat in Freo cos they thought they would get a cupla quid discount for disembarking early.

Exactly! Adventurers, some looking for freebies and discounts, and others desperate to get to land, any land.

Which was your port of entry, El Ping?

I've white ancestors who were pioneers of the so-called British Province of South Australia and another who arrived a year or three later and, according to family oral legend, jumped overboard with a gold sovereign in her gob, to swim ashore to Port Adelaide to avoid the grasping revenuers. Plus others including one who arrived in Bleak City as contracted labour in hard-rock gold mines, several who arrived in The Big Smoke and then moved S or N to carve out a life in forests, one who aimed for the gemfields in rural QLD, another who arrived in Maryborough to sell his labour, and - perhaps most memorable - a vineyard-tending family from the Rhine who were wrecked on a ship attempting to enter Moreton Bay via South Passage (betwixt the S tip of Moreton I and the N tip of N Stradbroke).

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by Alan Mighty

Exactly! Adventurers, some looking for freebies and discounts, and others desperate to get to land, any land.

Which was your port of entry, El Ping?

I've white ancestors who were pioneers of the so-called British Province of South Australia and another who arrived a year or three later and, according to family oral legend, jumped overboard with a gold sovereign in her gob, to swim ashore to Port Adelaide to avoid the grasping revenuers. Plus others including one who arrived in Bleak City as contracted labour in hard-rock gold mines, several who arrived in The Big Smoke and then moved S or N to carve out a life in forests, one who aimed for the gemfields in rural QLD, another who arrived in Maryborough to sell his labour, and - perhaps most memorable - a vineyard-tending family from the Rhine who were wrecked on a ship attempting to enter Moreton Bay via South Passage (betwixt the S tip of Moreton I and the N tip of N Stradbroke).

Having called at all the major Australian ports between 1924 and 1948 my father chose to settle in Melbourne in 1949 - and no - not 10 pounders.

Melbourne - the jewel in Queen Victoria's crown, richest city in the entire empire, and capitol of the Commonwealth of Australia from Federation until they moved the capitol to Canberra in 1927(?).

Sydney has always been playing catchup.

[Alan Mighty]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Melbourne - the jewel in Queen Victoria's crown, richest city in the entire empire, and capitol of the Commonwealth of Australia from Federation until they moved the capitol to Canberra in 1927(?).

Sydney has always been playing catchup.

Exactly. Melbourne as the city of modernity. The city in contact with the global world of commerce, right from its start.

The tag 'Bleak City' was invented in, from memory, Sydney by a Melbourne-hating radio jock in the 1980s.

Entrepreneurs in Melbourne pioneered the export of chilled mammal flesh (after a cosmopolitan history of seal killers and, whale killers in Bass Strait - the first white pfella export ventures in Australia). Sydney went for low value-added rendering, boiling down carcasses to fat and boiled muscle meat.

Entrepreneurs in Melbourne even dared to negotiate a treaty with Kooris. A venture soon outlawed by Sydney and Mother England, whom it seemed preferred casual genocide to treaty.

Sydney could have been an outwardly looking commercial city. The First Fleet dumped its human cargo and then sailed N to pick up commercial cargo on the China coast (most of the ships were chartered by the Englander govt for a one-way voyage and needed to earn their return voyage to Europe and make profit to boot).

But the taxpayers of Britain funded the colony of New South Wales, with few questions. That's the BIG difference from white settlement in the US: the several small North American settlements prospered or failed on their own. And it's a big part of the reason behind regional accents in the US and only the slightest of regional variation in Aus.

The tax revenue of Britain was always on call to fund the colony of NSW. If the convicts could not be bothered to farm and the soldiers not be bothered to motivate the convicts, no worries, Mother England would bail them out. Welfare dependency (and the accompanying crime and corruption) integrated deeply into the NSW psyche.

The squattocracy perfected the golden rule of Australian agrarian socialism: in a bad season, socialise the losses by begging another govt handout; in good season privatise the gains.

Sports rorts, car park rorts, submarine rorts ... all just variations on the theme. Not one of the mainstream political parties (and none of the micro-parties) is immune. Show an outstretched arm and, as long as it is white and well connected, it will be crossed with govt gold.

Bonus question: what's your take on the Mouvement des gilets jaunes flooding the streets of the Melbourne CBD yet again?

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by Alan Mighty

Bonus question: what's your take on the Mouvement des gilets jaunes flooding the streets of the Melbourne CBD yet again?

Bit tricky at the moment, the CFMEU leadership is saying that very few union members are involved at that the majority of the 1000(?) are far right extremists and antivaxxers.
I caught a snippet on the radio an hour or so back where I am pretty sure Setka said that any union members identfied as having been involved will be kicked out of the union.
( For them overseas yesterday's riot was an attack by union members on union headquarters)
This wasn't a big riot - only numbered in the hundreds.
Biggest item is the outrage expressed when someone was seen to kick someone else's dog. He is a dead duck if the grannies of Melbourne ever identify him.

[Simi 60]

Nice headline

‘Man-baby Nazis’: Melbourne anti-vaxxer protests swarm for second day

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021..._live_scroll=1

[SV DINGO]

Easy to always blame evrything on Right wing nazis.

Why dont we want to accept that some people might just simply dissagree with the vaccination.

To make a non mandatory vaccine indirectly mandatory to be able to keep working in your profession is just the taktics the nazis employed yes. So who are the Nazis?

The CFMEU has given Unions a very bad reputation and Setka well he is just a criminal but covered up.

The CFMEU as a Union is a disgrace and i can easily see that they have sold out their members without any doubt.

Let me make this clear before you guys think i am anti Unions , i am not. Unions are needed even today and without Unions , some of you guys that are so proud of your english history , you would not be here because your father's would had to still work 16 hours a day , sleep underrr the workbench or in fact be owned by a mighty factory owner or be owned by Your Monarchs.

Unions are an important part but dont sell out your members.

[GILow]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

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Biggest item is the outrage expressed when someone was seen to kick someone else's dog. He is a dead duck if the grannies of Melbourne ever identify him.

Better hope I don’t find him either. Pelting the CFMEU headquarters with projectiles is one thing, kicking a dog is crossing the line.

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by SV DINGO

To make a non mandatory vaccine indirectly mandatory to be able to keep working in your profession is just the taktics the nazis employed yes

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Is it?
Can you support that claim with some evidence?

Who says it's non mandatory?

Who made it mandatory to wear fluoro vests, hardhats, steel capped boots, safety glasses, not step past the magical yellow line and the list goes on.

These "safety" rules were accepted as part of the conditions to work, did anyone question them or have a big cry about it?
Why not this one, get a vaccine and wear a mask or don't work.

. So who are the Nazis?

As I said, interesting headline.

The ABC called them man babies.
I still like rat lickers.

[SV DINGO]

Originally Posted by Simi 60

Who says it's non mandatory?

Who made it mandatory to wear fluoro vests, hardhats, steel capped boots, safety glasses, not step past the magical yellow line and the list goes on.

These "safety" rules were accepted as part of the conditions to work, did anyone question them or have a big cry about it?
Why not this one, get a vaccine and wear a mask or don't work.

Wow , yes of course but wearing a mask is not eating a mask , wearing a hardhat is not getting a hardhat injected into your body.

I think you cross the line once you make it mandatory to get certain things injected into your body.

I take a bit of a guess here but what about if the Governments decide you have to take an injection that say will make you a corpse at say age 70. How would you feel about that?

I can give you lots of good reasons why we dont need anyone over the age of 70 , will you be happy to accept that rule?

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by SV DINGO

Wow , yes of course but wearing a mask is not eating a mask , wearing a hardhat is not getting a hardhat injected into your body.

I think you cross the line once you make it mandatory to get certain things injected into your body.

I take a bit of a guess here but what about if the Governments decide you have to take an injection that say will make you a corpse at say age 70. How would you feel about that?

I can give you lots of good reasons why we dont need anyone over the age of 70 , will you be happy to accept that rule?

Getting a bit carried away with yourself aren't you?

It's an actual real life pandemic, not Logan's Run or Soylent Green

And they haven't made it mandatory to get it injected
But they have made it a condition of that job

Don't want to get it, find a new job.
No injection
Winning.

[SV DINGO]

Originally Posted by Simi 60

Getting a bit carried away with yourself aren't you?

It's an actual real life pandemic, not Logan's Run or Soylent Green

And they haven't made it mandatory to get it injected
But they have made it a condition of that job

Don't want to get it, find a new job.
No injection
Winning.

Na dont think i am get swept away but i feel your lax attitude is expactly what can be a dangerous issue.

Have a think before you talk , get a new job? May be some Tradie just ring BHP and get an office job? Be a bit fair that some workers only have ONE job they know and they need that job not some advise get a different job.

Not so sure whether we should just talk so easily about peoples lifes.

You might have been in a lucky life , made your money and now skipper around but not everyone is so lucky and in todays world it is getting harder and harder to find a job , raise a family and we dont even want to talk about paying off your house.

I am for all safety rules but once we inject people we cross a fine line so for your sake i hope that in the month ahead we do not see women giving birth to deformed babies.

May be you should have a think about that and then see what you would tell those women.

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by GILow

Better hope I don’t find him either. Pelting the CFMEU headquarters with projectiles is one thing, kicking a dog is crossing the line.

I'm with you

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by SV DINGO

Not so sure whether we should just talk so easily about peoples lifes.

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Yet that is exactly what you are doing by saying the rat lickers should be allowed to run riot amongst those that are doing the right thing.