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[Uncle Bob]

Originally Posted by Yihang

Oh, the same Gladys that let everyone off ruby princess and take a train home.....

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53802816

I would'nt let her run a day care.

Day care, I wouldn't let her near a chook raffle!!

[UFO]

Originally Posted by Yihang

The doctors were like 'shiiiiiite'.

https://www.london-gynaecology.com/p...breastfeeding/

Also, don't plan to be pregnant for the next 6months. Pregnant women weren't included in the trials so no idea if it's safe? I'm guessing this is not normal.

A fainting medical condition and nothing of course to do with the vaccine - LOL


Here is the pre-faint section up to faint


https://www.brighteon.com/1130af9a-b...2-c9f6ff0e5b3b

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

Anyone with the nerve to criticize the CDC vaccination schedule will automatically be labeled as antivaxxer. It turns out then that most Canadians are indeed antivaxxers because most of Canada doesn't inoculate at birth but instead (more sensibly) waits a few months to give the first inoculations. So all of you that seem critical of a more sensible vax scheme, Are you injecting your infants at birth? Here in the US we do.

Indeed.
In the USA, only the first dose of Hepatitis B vaccine is recommended at birth. All others commence no earlier than at 2 months.
In Ontario, Canada, our earliest vaccination occurs at 2 months.

Recommended Child and Adolescent Immunization Schedule
US CDC ➥ https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedul....html#birth-15

Ontario ➥ http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/pro/p...n_schedule.pdf

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Indeed.
In the USA, only the first dose of Hepatitis B vaccine is recommended at birth. All others commence no earlier than at 2 months.
In Ontario, Canada, our earliest vaccination occurs at 2 months.

Recommended Child and Adolescent Immunization Schedule
US CDC ➥ https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedul....html#birth-15

Ontario ➥ http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/pro/p...n_schedule.pdf

Please this is a fact free , fear ridden discussion , don’t upset people with reality

[UFO]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Please this is a fact free , fear ridden discussion , don’t upset people with reality

So in the USA how many jabs by 15 Months old?


How many Jabs by 18?


Please post your findings, as I would not want to do it and be called a conspiracy theorist or fear ridden - Which FYI is all you guys over Covid 19.



But in case you can't be bothered here's a clue - Its a SHED Load.....




Also You have Vitamin K at Birth (not a Vaccine):


https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Vi...hProfessional/


Personally I preferred the Vitamin K of Professor Lilly from Los Angeles

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by UFO

Didn't Trump say that hydroxychloroquine was a good drug to help fight covid?
Was it not then smeared by a study in the Lancet saying it increased deaths in covid patients that was later retracted and they refused to share their data? But because of this report countries including the WHO basically banned the use of it for covid.
That actually happened so is it conspiracy theory? ...

You misunderstand the sequence of events, and the implications.
A study [1], published in Lancet, claimed that hydroxychloroquine was a good drug to help fight covid.

Another study [2] came out, refuting the earlier study.

A review of the earlier (favourable study) resulted in the retraction of the original article (claiming efficacy) [3], due in part, to the original authors' refusal to provide back-up data.


FACT: Studies show hydroxychloroquine does not have clinical benefits in treating COVID-19

Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, a treatment for malaria, lupus erythematosus, and rheumatoid arthritis, has been under study as a possible treatment for COVID-19. Current data shows that this drug does not reduce deaths among hospitalised COVID-19 patients, nor help people with moderate disease.* The use of hydoxychloroquine and chloroquine is accepted as generally safe for patients with malaria and autoimmune diseases, but its use where not indicated and without medical supervision can cause serious side effects and should be avoided.

* More decisive research is needed to assess its value in patients with mild disease or as pre- or post-exposure prophylaxis in patients exposed to COVID-19.

➥ https://www.who.int/images/default-s...rsn=5c09927f_2

“Hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19: a tale of populism and obscurantism” ~ by Nathan Peiffer-Smadja et al
➥ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...866-5/fulltext

[2] “Effect of hydroxychloroquine with or without azithromycin on the mortality of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) patients: a systematic review and meta-analysis” ~ by Thibault Fiolet et al
“... Hydroxychloroquine alone was not associated with reduced mortality in hospitalized COVID-19 patients but the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin significantly increased mortality ....”
➥ https://www.clinicalmicrobiologyandi...505-X/fulltext

[3]“Retraction—Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: a multinational registry analysis” ~ by Mandeep R Mehra, Frank Ruschitzka, Amit N Patel
➥ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...324-6/fulltext

[1] RETRACTED: Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: a multinational registry analysis” ~ by Prof Mandeep R Mehra et al
➥ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext

[UFO]

Originally Posted by GordMay

You misunderstand the sequence of events, and the implications.
A study [1], published in Lancet, claimed that hydroxychloroquine was a good drug to help fight covid.

Another study [2] came out, refuting the earlier study.

A review of the earlier (favourable study) resulted in the retraction of the original article (claiming efficacy) [3], due in part, to the original authors' refusal to provide back-up data.


FACT: Studies show hydroxychloroquine does not have clinical benefits in treating COVID-19

Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, a treatment for malaria, lupus erythematosus, and rheumatoid arthritis, has been under study as a possible treatment for COVID-19. Current data shows that this drug does not reduce deaths among hospitalised COVID-19 patients, nor help people with moderate disease.* The use of hydoxychloroquine and chloroquine is accepted as generally safe for patients with malaria and autoimmune diseases, but its use where not indicated and without medical supervision can cause serious side effects and should be avoided.

* More decisive research is needed to assess its value in patients with mild disease or as pre- or post-exposure prophylaxis in patients exposed to COVID-19.

➥ https://www.who.int/images/default-s...rsn=5c09927f_2

“Hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19: a tale of populism and obscurantism” ~ by Nathan Peiffer-Smadja et al
➥ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...866-5/fulltext

[2] “Effect of hydroxychloroquine with or without azithromycin on the mortality of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) patients: a systematic review and meta-analysis” ~ by Thibault Fiolet et al
“... Hydroxychloroquine alone was not associated with reduced mortality in hospitalized COVID-19 patients but the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin significantly increased mortality ....”
➥ https://www.clinicalmicrobiologyandi...505-X/fulltext

[3]“Retraction—Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: a multinational registry analysis” ~ by Mandeep R Mehra, Frank Ruschitzka, Amit N Patel
➥ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...324-6/fulltext

[1] RETRACTED: Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: a multinational registry analysis” ~ by Prof Mandeep R Mehra et al
➥ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext

Perhaps you should read the link I put up


https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52929916

[Capn Jimbo]

Originally Posted by UFO

A fainting medical condition and nothing of course to do with the vaccine - LOL

Here is the pre-faint section up to faint

https://www.brighteon.com/1130af9a-b...2-c9f6ff0e5b3b

Politics on parade. Why of course there's no such thing as a fainting condition!? Even Fox News avoided that conspiracy - probably because they want their listeners to survive...

"She walked away from the rostrum and fainted. Doctors who were nearby managed to catch her. Newschannel 9 reported that minutes later she was able to address reporters. Doctors said the vaccine ingredients did not cause the episode. Dover said that she has a condition where she could faint when she feels pain."

As a nurse I can't tell you the number of people I've jabbed who had great fear of needles and shots. The fainting and crying I've seen are not "serious side effects". Neither is stupidity...

https://www.foxnews.com/health/tenne...vid-19-vaccine

Also reported (but handily omitted) was the nurse quickly recovering and finishing her comments. Again from Fox:

"It just hit me all of a sudden," she said, according to the station. "I could feel it coming on. I felt a little disoriented but I feel fine now, and the pain in my arm is gone," she said."

The sad truth is we are fighting two viruses: the very real Covid, and the wave of political conspiracy mongering, anti-science, anti-truth, anti-vax wackos.

Their actions will only make this pandemic worse, and last much longer.

[UFO]

Originally Posted by Capn Jimbo

Politics on parade. Why of course there's no such thing as a fainting condition!? Even Fox News avoided that conspiracy - probably because they want their listeners to survive...
As a nurse I can't tell you the number of people I've jabbed who had great fear of needles and shots. The fainting and crying I've seen are not "serious side effects". Neither is stupidity...

https://www.foxnews.com/health/tenne...vid-19-vaccine

Also reported (but handily omitted) was the nurse quickly recovering and finishing her comments. Again from Fox:



The sad truth is we are fighting two viruses: the very real Covid, and the wave of political conspiracy mongering, anti-science, anti-truth, anti-vax wackos.

Their actions will only make this pandemic worse, and last much longer.

She did not feint from the needle or sight of it - It was afterwards whilst talking to the press - What else was she going to say when they are about to jab 7 billion people - Maybe she does have a medical condition where she feints all the time maybe she does not and was told to say that - Where is your categorical proof that she does? Well like me with she doesn't you don't have any so your just another propaganda pusher without any proof or evidence apart from what you believe.



Now calling people wackos is very childish, just because they have a different outlook and point of view that does not agree with you - Just more mainstream propaganda at its best.



FYI ANYTHING if the Price is Right can be bought and paid for including Science, Medical facts and plain old Truth - The way they get away with it is by for lack of a better word brainwashing the masses through mass media repetition into believing what they are told. Sometimes it is so strong that even when you show people the real truth from their legitimate sources they still do not believe it.

[Singularity]

Originally Posted by UFO

She did not feint from the needle or sight of it - It was afterwards whilst talking to the press - What else was she going to say when they are about to jab 7 billion people - Maybe she does have a medical condition where she feints all the time maybe she does not and was told to say that - Where is your categorical proof that she does? Well like me with she doesn't you don't have any so your just another propaganda pusher without any proof or evidence apart from what you believe.

Now calling people wackos is very childish, just because they have a different outlook and point of view that does not agree with you - Just more mainstream propaganda at its best.

FYI ANYTHING if the Price is Right can be bought and paid for including Science, Medical facts and plain old Truth - The way they get away with it is by for lack of a better word brainwashing the masses through mass media repetition into believing what they are told. Sometimes it is so strong that even when you show people the real truth from their legitimate sources they still do not believe it.

So it's not okay if someone calls you the village idiot, but it's fair for you to call everyone else idiots? Everyone else too-stupid, too brainwashed to know the "real truth?"

Is that how this works? Childish when they do it, not when you do it? Isn't that sort of...idiotic logic?

How about dispensing with the "everyone else is an idiot" talk?

[Jason Flare]

So, you want me to follow the science on climate change and then take a vaccine that has no mid and long term studies?

[OurOasis]

Originally Posted by UFO

She did not feint from the needle or sight of it

are you a medical doctor now??

- It was afterwards whilst talking to the press - What else was she going to say when they are about to jab 7 billion people - Maybe she does have a medical condition where she feints all the time maybe she does not and was told to say that - Where is your categorical proof that she does? Well like me with she doesn't you don't have any so your just another propaganda pusher without any proof or evidence apart from what you believe.



Now calling people wackos is very childish, just because they have a different outlook and point of view that does not agree with you - Just more mainstream propaganda at its best.



FYI ANYTHING if the Price is Right can be bought and paid for including Science, Medical facts and plain old Truth - The way they get away with it is by for lack of a better word brainwashing the masses through mass media repetition into believing what they are told. Sometimes it is so strong that even when you show people the real truth from their legitimate sources they still do not believe it.

So someone who believes the nurse when, on camera, she says she faints quite often ("maybe 6 times in the last six (?) weeks " ) then they are " just another propaganda pusher".
And you state " maybe she does not and was told to say that" ... "Where is your categorical proof that she does (not) "??

This would make you " just another propaganda pusher without any proof or evidence apart from what you believe" .

Another conspiracy theory in the making..

" Now calling people wackos " , ... if the shoe fits

[Thumbs Up]

Originally Posted by Singularity

Isn't that sort of...idiotic logic?

How about dispensing with the "everyone else is an idiot" talk?

No one called anyone an idiot except for you!

Name calling is the lowest form of intellectual discourse.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

Name calling is the lowest form of intellectual discourse.

I would have said that disseminating conspiracies is the lowest, but maybe at that point it's no longer very intellectual. And you'very been pretty free with the names upon occasion.

[Thumbs Up]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

I would have said that disseminating conspiracies is the lowest, but maybe at that point it's no longer very intellectual. And you'very been pretty free with the names upon occasion.

Did you inoculate your children at birth? Antivaxxer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bOH...ature=emb_logo