US / Canada border restrictions predictions...

[earthmover]

Trudeau publicly prefers to keep the border closed but he is still letting illegals in at the Quebec border. Those of us that live close to the border really miss going over. Lots of fun there in Michigan.

[Uncle Bob]

Originally Posted by kmacdonald

Assistance? Are you kidding me? If you didn't earn it you won't get it. I guess you want assistance for a new car, house, boat, plane, etc. The world owes it to you doesn't it? Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah, an example of empathy demonstrated soooo well.

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by Uncle Bob

Ah, an example of empathy demonstrated soooo well.

Yes, he's just a world of warmth.

[kmacdonald]

Originally Posted by Stu Jackson

Yes, he's just a world of warmth.

Thank you Stu.

[rbk]

Originally Posted by Uncle Bob

Ah, an example of empathy demonstrated soooo well.

Empathy turns to apathy when people use empathy to fraudulently take advantage of the empathetic with no remorse or consequences for the people who truly need it or give it freely and that leads to anger and rightfully so.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by rbk

Empathy turns to apathy when people use empathy to fraudulently take advantage of the empathetic with no remorse or consequences for the people who truly need it or give it freely and that leads to anger and rightfully so.

What does this even mean?

[rbk]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

What does this even mean?

It means people will take advantage whenever possible leaving the truly needy left with nothing. I find those who defend social assistance have either a) never needed to be on it and never will; or b)are one of the ones taking advantage of it. Those that are on it because of a situation hate being on it and will do everything to get off it but are thankful it’s there, they are the ones we need to support.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by rbk

It means people will take advantage whenever possible leaving the truly needy left with nothing. I find those who defend social assistance have either a) never needed to be on it and never will; or b)are one of the ones taking advantage of it. Those that are on it because of a situation hate being on it and will do everything to get off it but are thankful it’s there, they are the ones we need to support.

Well, you are entitled to your own opinion. Doesn't make it fact. And I have no idea what it has to do with the US/Canada border.

[rbk]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Well, you are entitled to your own opinion. Doesn't make it fact. And I have no idea what it has to do with the US/Canada border.

Posters from other counties attacking fellow Canadian posters about Canadian topics they have no knowledge of. For that matter a topic most have no real first hand knowledge of. Ever been on welfare? Live with an addict? Tell a family member or close friend you won’t enable them anymore? Have to beg or ask family members for food or use their shower/laundry? If you have done one of these chances are you’ve done most. If you haven’t you really shouldn’t have an opinion on social programs IMO.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by rbk

Posters from other counties attacking fellow Canadian posters about Canadian topics they have no knowledge of. For that matter a topic most have no real first hand knowledge of. Ever been on welfare? Live with an addict? Tell a family member or close friend you won’t enable them anymore? Have to beg or ask family members for food or use their shower/laundry? If you have done one of these chances are you’ve done most. If you haven’t you really shouldn’t have an opinion on social programs IMO.

I can answer yes to many. So as I say, you're entitled to your own biased opinions, but it doesn't make it a universal fact.


Once again, this has nothing to do with the topic.

[cortezsailor]

Hmmm well on topic now . Living close to the border on the west coast and being in the marina business I don’t see the border opening for months if not a year . That being said I meet Americans daily who are up here , some
Came before the restrictions , many after , but those all have one thing in common , money . You can easily travel between the two
Countries just not by boat or car , plane is acceptable , and if you have money it seems you can stay

[Macblaze]

Closer to topic...

https://globalnews.ca/news/7292656/w...rus-exemption/

It's an interesting question. I certainly think they should be allowed out pf Point Roberts so they can shop etc in Canada, but am sceptical about them hitting the main part of the US and then travelling back on any sort of regular basis.

They cite the exemption for Alaska which was probably the wrong thing to do if they were looking to give assurances. And just how many exceptions can be made before it becomes the de facto rule...

Still, I've been to Point Roberts...it would start to feel awfully claustrophobic after a while.

[Macblaze]

Originally Posted by cortezsailor

Hmmm well on topic now . Living close to the border on the west coast and being in the marina business I don’t see the border opening for months if not a year . That being said I meet Americans daily who are up here , some
Came before the restrictions , many after , but those all have one thing in common , money . You can easily travel between the two
Countries just not by boat or car , plane is acceptable , and if you have money it seems you can stay

If you are really seeing Americans on Cortez then that is actually beyond the pale. Bad enough they stop at populated places but somewhere that takes two ferry rides to get to... sigh.

[bfloSAILS]

We had to finally admit that we will not get over the border in the near future! We live on Grand Island, NY, and literally see Canada from our shoreline. Our yacht club is in Point Abino, Ontario, and the new cruising ketch we purchased last fall is still dry-docked in Cardinal ON. We have investigated every option we could think of to get across the border in the car, jump on the boat and sail it through the Welland canal and get it back to the US. Although we would literally never get out of our car and touch more than fifty feet of soil from the car to the dock, we have been denied entrance. The solution? It turns out that commercial carriers can cross the border so In September, we are paying buckets of money to have 42' of boat trucked to Buffalo to be dry-docked and stored on this side. The previous owner of the boat has been wonderful and has done what he can to make sure the boat is weathering the summer well. Luckily, we hadn't sold our Andrews 30 racing boat that is docked in Buffalo, NY yet so we had a boat this summer. Most Buffalo Canoe Club (on the Canadian shore) members are American and have not only been unable to use their boats but don't have access to their summer cottages either. Some yacht clubs on the American side have offered amenities to the BCC members but not all. Sandy Beach Yacht Club on Grand Island has offered their clubhouse once a week to BCC members to host social programs and has given space for the BCC lightening fleet to store and race those boats that had been brought back to the US for storage last year. Although we complain A LOT about the inconvenience, we remind ourselves that we are blessed to have boats and yacht clubs - gotta keep it all in perspective! Many of our Canadian friends have ski houses on the American side and may be in the same situation very soon. They can't get in to air their homes out any easier than we can get onto our dry-docked boat to do the same!

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by cortezsailor

Hmmm well on topic now . Living close to the border on the west coast and being in the marina business I don’t see the border opening for months if not a year . That being said I meet Americans daily who are up here , some
Came before the restrictions , many after , but those all have one thing in common , money . You can easily travel between the two
Countries just not by boat or car , plane is acceptable , and if you have money it seems you can stay

Sadly, this doesn't surprise me. Money always talks, and there are always the rules and laws for the poor, and another set for the wealthy. This can be seen in the unequal way this pandemic has struck our countries. The mortality has fallen far harder on those without money -- as it always does.