BREXIT

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Iceland is a frozen foods supermarket chain in the UK

Oh dear, that makes me look like a bit of a Dumbo...

Lets try 'probably more Au beef in Jumbo.cl than Au lamb in Iceland...'

[cyan]

Originally Posted by john61ct

The US is not likely to be "friendly" to anyone these days.

Dismantle your consumer protections, privatize your health industry, then maybe

We shall see. The current US (largest British trading partner) administration may have an incentive to make better deals with Britain in certain sectors vs the EU. Nobody thinks the British will end up paying what Americans do for Yankee innovation in pharmacuticals. However there are many reasons and sectors at play. There is a very negative CNN article on this and a very positive Wall Street Journal article on this. Stay tuned. Interesting times.

[john61ct]

When you dance with the devil, you don't get to pick the tune

[Dockhead]

Tee hee

Originally Posted by Paul L

Yea, it makes you long for the good old days when we could solve global issues with a World War or two.

[jimbunyard]

Originally Posted by StuM

Not two years of your former salary according to this site:


https://www.te-palvelut.fi/te/en/emp...ant/index.html


The purpose of startup grants is to encourage new businesses and promote employment. The grant provides an entrepreneur with a secure income during the time that getting the business up and running is estimated to take – however for no more than 12 months. The startup grant consists of a basic grant, which amounts to EUR 32.40 a day.
You may be eligible for a startup grant if

• you are an unemployed jobseeker
• you are not unemployed, but you are setting up as a full-time entrepreneur after a period in paid employment, education or domestic work
• you are part-time entrepreneur and you are planning to become full-time entrepreneur.

The startup grant will only be granted by the TE Office once it has been established that enterprising is a suitable option for the applicant to employ him/herself.
Preconditions for receiving the grant include

• being a full-time entrepreneur
• having adequate capabilities for the intended business
• having potential for continued profitable operation
• the grant is necessary for the entrepreneur's survival
• the business is only started after the grant has been awarded.

Doesn't answer the question of where the money comes from.

Interesting that the sum indicated, 32 EUR/day, is similar to the Universal Basic Income proposed by some in the US, of 1000 USD a month.

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by jimbunyard

Doesn't answer the question of where the money comes from.

Interesting that the sum indicated, 32 EUR/day, is similar to the Universal Basic Income proposed by some in the US, of 1000 USD a month.

....and a few dollars less than the daily unemployment benefit in Australia...

So... the dole with conditions....

[FAST FRED]

For cruisers ,

If your passport is from country A,

live/travel in country B

and bank in country C.

[Ghostrider421]

Originally Posted by GordMay

I think not

According to the market research firm Wealth-X: The leading country for UHNW individuals (those with $30m or more in net worth) in 2018, the US accounts for a 31% global share. This compared with 9% for second-placed China, and nearly 7% for third-placed Japan. The “World Ultra Wealth Report 2019” found the U.S. has 81,340 people with at least $30 million of net worth living in the country (more than the next 5, China, Japan, Germany, Canada and France combined), a 2.2% increase compared to last year.
One interesting development was the increase in the ultra-rich in the United Kingdom, which jumped above Hong Kong, despite fears about a potential calamitous fallout from Britain’s impending departure from the European Union.
World Ultra Wealth Report 2019 ➥ https://www.wealthx.com/report/world...h-report-2019/

Yes, I stand corrected.


https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...the-world.html


https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30949796

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Oh dear, that makes me look like a bit of a Dumbo...

Lets try 'probably more Au beef in Jumbo.cl than Au lamb in Iceland...'

To be honest I only buy Azorean or Alentejo beef, great believer in local produce.. and lamb is hard to come by, mutton is the norm or goat.
Portugal is pretty self sufficient in most essentials.

As to my saying I've no skin in the game which some doubted.. I can not vote in UK affairs unless I am living in the UK, my only 'skin' is my pension which the DWP have told me is safe as is till 2023, but I take that with a pinch of salt.
My opinions are based on what I see and hear travelling around the EU and on how I would vote if I was living back in Poole or Hastings..
We are islanders so have a different 'space' so to speak..
Ask a Sardinian or Sicilian if they are Italian and they'll deny it.. call a Corsican French and he's insulted.. in Faial or Pico they are Azorean not Portuguese..
Trying to blend Islanders with Continental's is oil and water..

[Group9]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Hey Atoll..
I just found out I'm Affluent...
WHEEEeeeeeeee,!!!!

That's the funny thing about all of the people who want to go after the one percent. To be in the top one percent of the world, income and wealth wise, you have to have income of over $31,000 a year, and assets of over $500,000 a year.

Still think the one percent needs to be raped?

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by cyan

The millionaire count is not even close, by many fold (6 or more). Not sure how anyone could miss that...

Care to explain and support that assertion?

[jimbunyard]

Originally Posted by Group9

That's the funny thing about all of the people who want to go after the one percent. To be in the top one percent of the world, income and wealth wise, you have to have income of over $31,000 a year, and assets of over $500,000 a year.

Still think the one percent needs to be raped?

Except I've never heard of a 'World Tax', at least not yet. Logical fallacies make for really poor arguments, except to those who are unaware of the facts...or to those who have an agenda.

https://www.investopedia.com/article...cent-world.asp

Leaving aside the inflammatory insinuations.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Group9

That's the funny thing about all of the people who want to go after the one percent. To be in the top one percent of the world, income and wealth wise, you have to have income of over $31,000 a year, and assets of over $500,000 a year.
Still think the one percent needs to be raped?

I don't believe anyone should be raped (literally or figuratively).
However, further to your literary allegory, I’d, more accurately, characterise the 1% as the rapist, rather than the victim.


According to the 2018 Global Wealth Report from Credit Suisse Research Institute (previously linked), you need a net worth of $871,320 U.S. to be in the top 1% in the world. Credit Suisse defines net worth, or “wealth,” as “the value of financial assets plus real assets (principally housing) owned by households, minus their debts.”

As Credit Suisse reports:
“While the bottom half of adults collectively owns less than 1 percent of total wealth, the richest decile (top 10 percent of adults) owns 85 percent of global wealth, and the top percentile alone accounts for almost half of all household wealth (47 percent).”

Eighty-two percent of the money made in 2017 went to the richest 1 percent of the world’s population, according to a report by anti-poverty charity Oxfam. In their 2018 report, the richest 42 people in the world had as much wealth as the poorest half.

These numbers reflect the extreme level of persistent wealth inequality.

[Pelagic]

So if Brexit finally goes thru, would that then leave the rest of Europe somewhat incontinent ?
[emoji4]

[Rumpi]

While we all wait for Mr. Johnson to "get Brexit done" can someone please enlighten me about it's benefits? Why do the british want out anyway? I get the emotional "we don't want to be ruled by continentals" but that can not be the only reason. There must be some hard economic and social benefits of brexiting, so what are those?