UK boats could lose EU VAT paid status

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by Va2shp

Not being part of EU, I am in this situation. It is not a question of being happy, but of honnesty, Uk does not want to be part of EU but want the advantage of EU. I think they are in for a few surprises.

Don't forget the EU wants to be able to trade with the UK as well. The UK has been a major market place for european goods for decades. The German luxury car manufacturers will be worried as will ikea. Since countries like Iceland and Canada have trading agreements with the EU, it will be interesting to see how they are allowed to trade in future with the UK. Tax free hopefully, make the UK a tax haven for EU visitors.

Pete

[charleshagen]

Register/move to Cayman Islands....tax exempt I BELIEVE

[ArmyDaveNY]

Earlier someone mentioned Northern Ireland. I believe the Good Friday accords have something to say about the free travel of goods across the border. First, is this true, and will that solve the issue?


I know the Faroe Islands have a unique status as they are a part of an EU country yet they themselves are not a part of the EU. Is it possible that the solution will be something like the arrangement they have? For example, The Faroes are not covered by the Schengen Agreement, but there are no border checks when traveling between the Faroes and any Schengen country.

[breezydays]

Our boat is in Brittany, France. Our marina is well aware of the problem and is preparing to give individual documentary proof that the boat was in the marina on Brexit day ( if it ever occurs) . Our boat is Dutch VAT paid but it will count for nothing , it all depends on where it is on the day the UK exits. We have been advised that if nothing changes then our boat would need to pay UK VAT if we ever decided to take it permanently back to the UK. In addition we will need to take it out of the EU at least once every 18 months - the Channel Islands for a weekend would do the trick. But who knows , anything is possible in the current chaos.

[wolfgal]

Dieppe has a marina and a ferry to New Haven

(they are not answering the phone this morning, maybe bombarded with calls or just late to open...)



anyhow, this means that you can cross over with the boat and return on the 5h00 ferry the next morn or sail back

i can be there to help anyone on the 29th and 30th (can help you with French, can offer a place to stay, if needed)


Dieppe Normandy marina:

9h00 - 12h00 and 14h00 to 17h00 (french time)

+33 (0)2 35401979


good luck to all those concerned!

wolfgal

[Alita49DS]

Thank you for highlighting this issue.

Fortunately my UK registered boat has an annual berth in Genoa.

This is not the fault of the EU but the blinkered people who voted for Brexit; choosing to ignore all the economic and social warnings on the grounds that they came from "experts" and that it was better to believe the now proven lies of the leave campaign.

Another reason the join the over 5m who have signed the petition to revoke the Article 50 notice. If you have not already done so.

[mikedefieslife]

Of course some people own boats that were built before VAT existed. Interestingly, the CA article/advice doesn't bother to mention them, or detail if they'd be liable for a retrospective VAT from the UK/EU

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Alita49DS

Thank you for highlighting this issue.

Fortunately my UK registered boat has an annual berth in Genoa.

This is not the fault of the EU but the blinkered people who voted for Brexit; choosing to ignore all the economic and social warnings on the grounds that they came from "experts" and that it was better to believe the now proven lies of the leave campaign.

Another reason the join the over 5m who have signed the petition to revoke the Article 50 notice. If you have not already done so.

No blinkers, eyes wide open..
Its a brave new world if we can achieve No Deal, anything less is a clusterflock.
Not everyones doing the Pucker Butt..

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by wolfgal

Dieppe has a marina and a ferry to New Haven

(they are not answering the phone this morning, maybe bombarded with calls or just late to open...)



anyhow, this means that you can cross over with the boat and return on the 5h00 ferry the next morn or sail back

i can be there to help anyone on the 29th and 30th (can help you with French, can offer a place to stay, if needed)


Dieppe Normandy marina:

9h00 - 12h00 and 14h00 to 17h00 (french time)

+33 (0)2 35401979


good luck to all those concerned!

wolfgal

Dieppe is an absolutely beautiful place; highly recommended.


I would be long single handed day sail for me from Cowes (about 110 miles), but in good weather it would be a fun sail, so it might be an option if Cherbourg is full.


I guess Dieppe is a port of entry, if there is a ferry there, right?

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Dieppe is an absolutely beautiful place; highly recommended.


I would be long single handed day sail for me from Cowes (about 110 miles), but in good weather it would be a fun sail, so it might be an option if Cherbourg is full.


I guess Dieppe is a port of entry, if there is a ferry there, right?

Well you now have till April 12th to plan it DH..
Unless the Westminster Enuchs suddenly grow a pair it will then either move to May 22nd.. or 2yrs down the line.. or never..

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Well you now have till April 12th to plan it DH..
Unless the Westminster Enuchs suddenly grow a pair it will then either move to May 22nd.. or 2yrs down the line.. or never..

No, I have until 11 April, and not to plan it, but to EXECUTE it


I will have to decide by the end of next week and sail the following Saturday, because I have to be somewhere else the week of Brexit

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

No, I have until 11 April, and not to plan it, but to EXECUTE it


I will have to decide by the end of next week and sail the following Saturday, because I have to be somewhere else the week of Brexit

Don't Panic.!!!

[wolfgal]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Dieppe is an absolutely beautiful place; highly recommended.


I would be long single handed day sail for me from Cowes (about 110 miles), but in good weather it would be a fun sail, so it might be an option if Cherbourg is full.


Dieppe is a port of entry, if there is a ferry there, right?

Yes, there is the ferry in dieppe (to New Haven) that runs twice a day. 4 hrs one way, 4 and a half hours the other. it is a relatively inexpensive way to get across the channel.

i'd think that Dieppe is a Port of Entry. I just called to ask how official things get and they said that they provide an invoice.

Dieppe has two marinas: Ango in the front and Duquesne, back behind a lock and draw bridge. both are secure and have a code for getting in an out.

the boatyard (on the hard) is not all that large and really only available for those who have a slip, but they do handle pull outs and anti-fouling. there is a chandelry (i think it is called GQ or QG) at the very end of the longest basin (best on a bicycle). the better chandler (U-Ship) is in St Valery en Caux, not too far off if sailing (otherwise there is a bus that leaves from the train station).



i asked if they have space for a 48' and they said no problem. plenty of space for the moment.

a 14m is 63 euros/day and 163 euros for seven days.



wolfgal

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by wolfgal

Yes, there is the ferry in dieppe (to New Haven) that runs twice a day. 4 hrs one way, 4 and a half hours the other. it is a relatively inexpensive way to get across the channel.

i'd think that Dieppe is a Port of Entry. I just called to ask how official things get and they said that they provide an invoice.

Dieppe has two marinas: Ango in the front and Duquesne, back behind a lock and draw bridge. both are secure and have a code for getting in an out.

the boatyard (on the hard) is not all that large and really only available for those who have a slip, but they do handle pull outs and anti-fouling. there is a chandelry (i think it is called GQ or QG) at the very end of the longest basin (best on a bicycle). the better chandler (U-Ship) is in St Valery en Caux, not too far off if sailing (otherwise there is a bus that leaves from the train station).



i asked if they have space for a 48' and they said no problem. plenty of space for the moment.

a 14m is 63 euros/day and 163 euros for seven days.



wolfgal

OK, I'm 16.4 meters (actually about 18 meters LOA), but I'm sure the price will be OK. This sounds like a very good variant. And I remember a wonderful oyster restaurant in Dieppe . . . nice place to spend some time . . .

[wolfgal]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

OK, I'm 16.4 meters (actually about 18 meters LOA), but I'm sure the price will be OK. This sounds like a very good variant. And I remember a wonderful oyster restaurant in Dieppe . . . nice place to spend some time . . .

The price is according to what is written on the boat's papers:

16m = 39e30/day or 193e50/week
18m = 45.50/day or 223.20/week

the restaurant known for oysters is called Comptoir à Huitresn located very close to the marina

i looked for their info in English but...

https://www.pagesjaunes.fr/pros/55828427


hope this helps


wolfgal