Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > Scuttlebutt > Destinations > Atlantic & the Caribbean
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 13-04-2014, 07:29   #1
Registered User
 
zboss's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: On a boat
Boat: 1987 Cabo Rico 38 #117 (sold) & 2008 Manta 42 #124
Posts: 4,177
Cruise Ships coming in and out of Port Canaveral

Folks,

Where do we get the latest updates and navigate the port canaveral inlet when cruise ships are exiting? Do they close off the port for security reasons? Although we have transited Norfolk, this will be the first time entering such a busy and congested port.

I am assuming you just monitor to 9/13/16 for ship activity and take corrective action early.
zboss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2014, 07:43   #2
Long Range Cruiser
 
MarkJ's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,822
Images: 25
Re: Cruise Ships coming in and out of Port Canaveral

The first time playing with ships is a bit 'exciting' but its really quite easy.

If you do not have AIS but do have internet on the boat you could check marinetraffic.com and zoom into whatever port you are near.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image.jpg
Views:	232
Size:	352.1 KB
ID:	79236  
__________________
Notes on a Circumnavigation.
OurLifeAtSea.com

Somalia Pirates and our Convoy
MarkJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2014, 07:45   #3
Marine Service Provider
 
Snore's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Boat: Retired Delivery Capt
Posts: 3,712
Send a message via Skype™ to Snore
Re: Cruise Ships coming in and out of Port Canaveral

When there are cruise ships in Miami they close the main ship channel, but you can still transit the area by transiting the inlet, then taking a channel to the south and go past the freighters. In Port Everglades/ Ft Lauderdale, they have security zones around the ships, last time I went through there were RIBs by the ships. I did not go near to check

My SWAG is that they probably have a security zone around the cruise ships. When the USCG closes the Miami main ship channel, there is a security call ever 20 min or so on Ch.16.
__________________
"Whenever...it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people's hats off- then, I account it high time to get to sea..." Ishmael
Snore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2014, 07:48   #4
Registered User
 
Nicholson58's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Caribbean live aboard
Boat: Camper & Nicholson58 Ketch - ROXY Traverse City, Michigan No.668283
Posts: 6,527
Images: 84
Re: Cruise Ships coming in and out of Port Canaveral

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ View Post
The first time playing with ships is a bit 'exciting' but its really quite easy.

If you do not have AIS but do have internet on the boat you could check marinetraffic.com and zoom into whatever port you are near.
Excellent advice. Thanks for the link.

AND - we love our Watchmate 850 Vesper Marine.
Nicholson58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2014, 15:11   #5
Registered User
 
zboss's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: On a boat
Boat: 1987 Cabo Rico 38 #117 (sold) & 2008 Manta 42 #124
Posts: 4,177
Re: Cruise Ships coming in and out of Port Canaveral

We do have an AIS... its a transponder so they can see us as well. It works very well but even in Norfolk there is plenty of room to maneuver. We also have radar.

It doesn't appear that there is much leeway to move in that channel. The closest we have come to a large vessel was a Navy gun ship of some kind about a mile away heading into the Norfolk channel along with us. The thought of sharing a channel with a HUGE cruise ship makes me nervous.

What speed do the large cruise ships make once in the channel? Do they pick up pilots like the do in Jax?
zboss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2014, 15:28   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Wilbur By The Sea, FL
Boat: Catalina 30
Posts: 661
Re: Cruise Ships coming in and out of Port Canaveral

The ships do have pilots at Port Canaveral.

We know when they are leaving because they are all over the radio. Every so often someone in a smaller craft will not pay attention to the warning and that makes for interesting radio traffic.

We have been on a few of those cruises and from the time they cast off until they are past the marker is remarkably short. The usually haul butt to cross the stream as quickly as possible as not to upset the passengers.
__________________
Gary
https://svknotaclew.wordpress.com/
The Garbone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2014, 16:45   #7
Long Range Cruiser
 
MarkJ's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,822
Images: 25
Re: Cruise Ships coming in and out of Port Canaveral

You can go very close to them, say 100 meters. In the inshore channel they will not be going fast. Outside they will alter speed to get to their next port of call on time, so their speed varies.

They will normally be in the middle of the marked channel on their side of the channel, so that gives you basically three places to be: on either edge of the channel or right in the middle.

In the middle is safest in traffic separation channels where there is a buffer between the lanes. The next best place is on the starboard side of the channel. But i never go outside the channel in a strange port. It may be shallow or obstructed.
You are a boat so you can be counted like any boat larger than you. But remember the rule book and brush up on it.

Remember the ships coming in and out of port will have a pilot and they know their stuff, as do ships crews. They will be watching for you.

Listen in on VHF 16 and 13 because the ship will often put out an All Ships message before they move on VHF 16.

You can get quite close to them, you are not going to be sucked up some vortex.


With your AIS you will find it much easier and you will have their exact distance off. They are wonderful bits of kit. And he will be watching you on his AIS. Thats why they are great!
__________________
Notes on a Circumnavigation.
OurLifeAtSea.com

Somalia Pirates and our Convoy
MarkJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-04-2014, 10:52   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 322
Re: Cruise Ships coming in and out of Port Canaveral

As a little addition, they typically arrive in the early AM and depart late afternoon.
marlinmike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-04-2014, 11:44   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Mt Pleasant SC
Boat: Hunter 326
Posts: 22
Re: Cruise Ships coming in and out of Port Canaveral

At the Port of Canveral they leave between 5-6PM and arrive at 0600. Port security will keep you 500 yds away. The port is the only entrance for miles so they can't close it for arriavals and departures like Miami.
Kjretlaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-04-2014, 11:53   #10
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
Boat: Valiant 40 (1975)
Posts: 4,073
Re: Cruise Ships coming in and out of Port Canaveral

I concur with opinions on AIS. In addition, they have subroutines that compute how close you will pass each other, and if it is less than a quarter of a mile I get a polite call telling me to move over a snuge. Makes life so much easier.
s/v Beth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-04-2014, 12:02   #11
CF Adviser
Moderator Emeritus
 
Hud3's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Virginia
Boat: Island Packet 380, now sold
Posts: 8,943
Images: 54
Re: Cruise Ships coming in and out of Port Canaveral

zboss,

This link has the port call schedule (arrivals and departures) for Port Everglades...

Public Traffic Board

Quite a lot of info there.
__________________
Hud
Hud3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cruise, cruise ship


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Beneteau 432 Port Canaveral Area CHM Meets & Greets 7 15-01-2012 13:19
Crew Available: Port Canaveral / Melbourne, FL usb6009 Crew Archives 0 08-07-2011 09:47
Port Canaveral Locks Closed Captain Bill General Sailing Forum 0 30-12-2010 05:00
Searching for informatin about big sail ships.Famous pirates ships. Santa Maria venelin General Sailing Forum 0 23-02-2008 02:20
Cruise Ships CaptainK The Sailor's Confessional 21 05-10-2007 21:33

Advertise Here
  Vendor Spotlight
No Threads to Display.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:16.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.